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An interesting commentary from Margo Oge, former director of the EPA's Office of Transportation and Air Quality.
Double game played by OEMs, exposed:
Double game played by OEMs, exposed:
Reciprocity
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Amazing they got 30 people to show up. Wonder how many they had to pay to be there to protest? Probably just the ones who couldn't already get a job some place else with 4% unemployment. Unions are about as useless as FUDsters.
Reciprocity
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Nah, I'll take the opinion of MIT and Berkeley physics professors over that of some anonymous poster on internet who doesn't even know which sector the transportation industry belongs.
Wolverton: Elon Musk’s Hyperloop hype ignores practical problems – The Mercury News
But that's just the Elon way. A $45k Model S and a $35k M3 for all.
You really should be posting this drivel on the Virgin forum because Branson just invested $1B in hyperloop one.. which is now called Virgin hyperloop one.
It should be wireless... like apparently the the computer is...
Reciprocity
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The Tag team FUDsters are here today.. must getting paid OT today.
Interesting Swiss Interview with VW CEO Mueller. I volunteer to translate a few passages for you guys :
Q: Mr. Mueller, how many Diesel are you actually still selling?
A: Less than planned - because of the entire situation (...) That is a problem and we need to change that.
Q: How that?
A: Its not comprehensible that there is a sustainable lack of trust in the Diesel. Our actual Diesel Motors are clean, efficient and fulfill all legal requirements. They are ahead of competition. (...) to be able to comply with a level of 95 Gramm carbon dioxid per kilometer in 2020 we need a certain level of Diesel.
(...)
Q: In the VW plant Salzgitter VW will start a small batterie cell production. Intends VW to be technology seen a part of it or produce on the long run batterie cells on its own?
A: First of all we need to understand the entire batterie subject from A to Z. (...) to prepare the right decisions.
Q: and to prove afterwards?
A: To be honest, the demand will be huge. Alone in 2025 we need a capacity of 150 GWH per anno which we cannot deliver alone. (...)
Q: The customers don't want the E - Technology yet but buy ICE.
A: The customers are not convinced that electrification is the right technology. Thats also because of us and we need to do more convincing work and bring the announced cars on the road. But is also because the infrastructure is not yet ready to drive without reservation electric. (...) 80 Thousand cars from Tesla are not a break through.
Q: To make the electro wave roll after 2020 there is a lot that needs to happen. Charter needs to be installed, batteries with much more performance and less weight and prices profoundly shrinking. Isn't that topic within 3 years?
A: With our cars of the electro platform MEB that all applies. The VW I.D. for example will have a range of 500 - 600 km, costs not more than a comparable Diesel and if there enough charging stations is not up to us producers. Thats where cities , countries utilities are requested. (...)
Q: Tesla is for many currently the most cool automaker. Is Tesla for you more than one automaker of many?
Noteworthy with Tesla is the business model. On the one side is Tesla losing every quarter up to 3 digit millions but somehow it nevertheless appears to be in the position to get somewhere again and again money to continue. What impress me more is the way how Tesla is positioning the subject driving. They are courageous and we have been missing to be courageous. They are also fast. But they are finally just one of many and there are other interesting competitors. An the German Auto Industry ... has been often declared dead but still the German producers have been at the end of the day leading in every phase of the industry. It will stay like that.
(...)
.... famous last words ... ?
VW-Chef Müller: «Wir müssen daraus lernen!»
Q: Mr. Mueller, how many Diesel are you actually still selling?
A: Less than planned - because of the entire situation (...) That is a problem and we need to change that.
Q: How that?
A: Its not comprehensible that there is a sustainable lack of trust in the Diesel. Our actual Diesel Motors are clean, efficient and fulfill all legal requirements. They are ahead of competition. (...) to be able to comply with a level of 95 Gramm carbon dioxid per kilometer in 2020 we need a certain level of Diesel.
(...)
Q: In the VW plant Salzgitter VW will start a small batterie cell production. Intends VW to be technology seen a part of it or produce on the long run batterie cells on its own?
A: First of all we need to understand the entire batterie subject from A to Z. (...) to prepare the right decisions.
Q: and to prove afterwards?
A: To be honest, the demand will be huge. Alone in 2025 we need a capacity of 150 GWH per anno which we cannot deliver alone. (...)
Q: The customers don't want the E - Technology yet but buy ICE.
A: The customers are not convinced that electrification is the right technology. Thats also because of us and we need to do more convincing work and bring the announced cars on the road. But is also because the infrastructure is not yet ready to drive without reservation electric. (...) 80 Thousand cars from Tesla are not a break through.
Q: To make the electro wave roll after 2020 there is a lot that needs to happen. Charter needs to be installed, batteries with much more performance and less weight and prices profoundly shrinking. Isn't that topic within 3 years?
A: With our cars of the electro platform MEB that all applies. The VW I.D. for example will have a range of 500 - 600 km, costs not more than a comparable Diesel and if there enough charging stations is not up to us producers. Thats where cities , countries utilities are requested. (...)
Q: Tesla is for many currently the most cool automaker. Is Tesla for you more than one automaker of many?
Noteworthy with Tesla is the business model. On the one side is Tesla losing every quarter up to 3 digit millions but somehow it nevertheless appears to be in the position to get somewhere again and again money to continue. What impress me more is the way how Tesla is positioning the subject driving. They are courageous and we have been missing to be courageous. They are also fast. But they are finally just one of many and there are other interesting competitors. An the German Auto Industry ... has been often declared dead but still the German producers have been at the end of the day leading in every phase of the industry. It will stay like that.
(...)
.... famous last words ... ?
VW-Chef Müller: «Wir müssen daraus lernen!»
Einhorn, another master of the universe that is out of his mind.
He further doubles down on Amazon not gaining the profits
That it displaces.
You just don’t short disruptive companies in their hyper growth phase .
He further doubles down on Amazon not gaining the profits
That it displaces.
You just don’t short disruptive companies in their hyper growth phase .
Reich for 1000 years was the other delusional one
Buddyroe
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Man, there's a ton of negative media out there about Tesla right now - AutoPilot 2 isn't what Musk hyped it up to be, Model 3 production ramp-up issues, Model X on-going quality issues - just to name a few.
This may be the most worried I have ever been about Tesla. I believe in Elon and I sure hope he has it all under control.
This may be the most worried I have ever been about Tesla. I believe in Elon and I sure hope he has it all under control.
Daimler unveils heavy-duty all-electric truck concept with ‘up to 220 miles’ range
gee - where did that marketing image come from?
gee - where did that marketing image come from?
3Victoria
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Smells like desperation by the FUDmeisters. Good time to be confident. Its coming together nicely. 3 will ramp, S/X executing well, TE coming on well, solar roof about to expand. What's not to like?
Well, we are certainly getting into the lower part of the $280-$380 range that many here, including me, thought we would be stuck in until model 3 ramp hits 5k and/or we see a profit (mid-late 2018).
Personally, I will be adding at $310, which I think is a possibility, although my J19 Leaps will be feeling 30% 'red' if we get there soon.
I am looking forward to the J20 LEAP release.
For those that think TSLA hits '$0' sometime or $2K in early/mid 2019....I put both of those possibilities at .05%.
The current SP is not just about FUD. EM's predictions of where the current ramp rate should be and AP advancements are just as much to blame.
This is still a 'momo' stock. Right now the 'mojo' is not good.
Personally, I will be adding at $310, which I think is a possibility, although my J19 Leaps will be feeling 30% 'red' if we get there soon.
I am looking forward to the J20 LEAP release.
For those that think TSLA hits '$0' sometime or $2K in early/mid 2019....I put both of those possibilities at .05%.
The current SP is not just about FUD. EM's predictions of where the current ramp rate should be and AP advancements are just as much to blame.
This is still a 'momo' stock. Right now the 'mojo' is not good.
I don't pretend to be an investing expert, so definitely not advice, but I generally use a growth in the number of FUD articles as an indication that it's time to load up more. I'm talking myself into adding another 750 shares now.
Tesla's New Mobile Service Vehicles Will Be Electric...'Bout Time
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“We didn’t think that it was very cool to show up to fix an electric vehicle with a combustion engine van. It really bugged us. Some really savvy technicians on our team figured out how to retrofit Model X to fit all the tooling and parts needed to do service.”
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“We didn’t think that it was very cool to show up to fix an electric vehicle with a combustion engine van. It really bugged us. Some really savvy technicians on our team figured out how to retrofit Model X to fit all the tooling and parts needed to do service.”
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Am I the only one who doesn't really dig Elon light hearted tweets ?
Would be cool if he writes more often serious tweets. I know he does it from time to time, and that the humor is to gain more popularity (people are more attracted to entertainment than " seriousness " ) but still I think it could be interesting for investors.
Would be cool if he writes more often serious tweets. I know he does it from time to time, and that the humor is to gain more popularity (people are more attracted to entertainment than " seriousness " ) but still I think it could be interesting for investors.
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