3 km per hour is completely reasonable... but not at -20C. At those temperatures you'll get little charging, as all the power goes into pack heating. It does help a lot if you could park indoors, so the car isn't exposed to wind.
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That's guaranteed not to be an option.3 km per hour is completely reasonable... but not at -20C. At those temperatures you'll get little charging, as all the power goes into pack heating. It does help a lot if you could park indoors, so the car isn't exposed to wind.
Take note all those who have said that range anxiety doesn't exist! In the ICE we won't have to fill up on the trip, in the Tesla 2 supercharger stops still won't cover it.
Take note all those who have said that range anxiety doesn't exist! In the ICE we won't have to fill up on the trip, in the Tesla 2 supercharger stops still won't cover it.
bad linkI just got a VERY unexpected surprise in my inbox today! seems the EV gods are smiling on me this month!
3.5 hour drive each way in the Model S will be so much nicer than 3 each way in a VW Rabbit! (extra half hour to stop briefly at the supercharger)
I know this is an old thread, but I thought it might be better to post here than to create another similar thread.
I have a bit of a trip coming up that could cause me some pain. I'm heading to a place in the middle of nowhere, in January, in Canada. The closest supercharger is too far away to make the round trip, and the only one I can find on plugshare between the two is in an inconvenient spot, only 9kw, and without additional charging I'd need to stop there both ways, I'd like to avoid that if possible.
I'm not expecting any 240v charging at the destination (though I do have an email in to them with some wishful thinking) I suspect they'll only have 110v available (even that is not guaranteed, and if they don't I won't have much choice but to use the ICE)
I have calculated, with some help from EV trip planner, that I need to achieve an absolute minimum of 3km/hr (1.8miles/hr) of charge while I'm there to reach the supercharger on the way home (not counting any losses while parked, could be relevant?)
I'm expecting temperatures in the range of -15 to -20 c (5 to -5 F) though it could dip colder at night.
I'll start with a warm battery from a long drive, but will be charging for 2 days so not sure how warm the battery will stay
I know those rates of charge would be quite doable in the summer, but I'm worried in the cold it might be different.
Am I crazy to attempt this? or does this seem reasonable on a 110v outlet? Really don't want to take the ICE if I can avoid it, the Tesla is just so much nicer, especially on road trips!
I just got a VERY unexpected surprise in my inbox today! seems the EV gods are smiling on me this month!
3.5 hour drive each way in the Model S will be so much nicer than 3 each way in a VW Rabbit! (extra half hour to stop briefly at the supercharger)
I just got a VERY unexpected surprise in my inbox today! seems the EV gods are smiling on me this month!
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3.5 hour drive each way in the Model S will be so much nicer than 3 each way in a VW Rabbit! (extra half hour to stop briefly at the supercharger)
That does not appear to be a temporary solution for me, it seems to be something they already had, though for what I can't even really guess. As for code, In this area that wire is acceptable for direct buried applications, however to meet code it would need to be protected in conduit for the exposed section up to the outlet (which it is not) This however won't change the ability to charge at all, and unless I'm planning to attack the base of that post with a weedeater or shovel, is perfectly safe.
Well looks like I'm doing an unexpected trial today. I'm at a location right now for the next 24hrs. I thought I'd be able to charge at 240 (or 208) but I'm only able to use 110v (116v) though luckily it's a 20A outlet.
I arrived with 169km of range, I need about 230-250km to make it home tomorrow night.
Now for the catch. Car was reporting -22c (about -8f) when I pulled in. Should be interesting...
20a outlet isn't 20a charging, it's 16aToo many math translations for my pea brain...
20 amps at 110 translates to roughly 20km per hour charge rate, meaning you need minimum 4 hours charging? Possibly double for the cold?
Will you stop charging at 250 range, then restart charging 2 hours before departure to attempt to have a warm pack and car?
20a outlet isn't 20a charging, it's 16a
I'm cheating and have the car set to 17a (which I probably shouldn't, but I'm willing to risk it this time)
I have it set to charge to 90% and am getting 9km/hr right now. Car estimates 22hrs 50mins to go (which is within 10 mins of my scheduled departure time). But the real question will be whether it slows down or speeds up as time goes on in the cold. Keep in mind it started warm after a two hour drive, and it's really cold out right now. So it may have to dedicate increasing amounts of the current to heating as time goes on. I'm curious to see.
Only "computer" I have access to here is my phone, so I'm limited to the official app, or Web based things. So far I've added 11km in 1hr 20 mins. Hopefully by morning we're still adding and not subtracting.The pack heater is 5kW. I don't know what's the maximum it could draw for charging, but you could basically see a power draw instead of charging while pulling current from shore. I see it's going to be -5F in Alberta tonight so I would be heating will be necessary. Try using powertools or remote S to see battery power/amps. I've gotten my car to go -2kW to the pack while still pulling almost 10kW from shore, by turning on the heater and max battery heating at the same time.
Only "computer" I have access to here is my phone, so I'm limited to the official app, or Web based things. So far I've added 11km in 1hr 20 mins. Hopefully by morning we're still adding and not subtracting.
On a side note, subtracting range instead of adding is a stupid decision, the worst it should ever do is shut down the charging and not add range.