Bluestar is the Tesla code name for the vehicle platform following the "skateboard" platform on which the Model S and Model X were based. As of today, only very little is known:
Bluestar Platform - UNOFFICIAL Options and Prices Based on the Bluestar platform, Tesla hones its world-leading EV architecture to the next level. The refinement of that platform sticks with the Tesla brand of premium quality and performance while at the same time targets the affordable, mass-marketable vehicle promised years ago in the company blog. The platform not only spawns Model R, the long-anticipated successor to the Tesla Roadster, but also a compact-class family sedan named Model C.
All TESLA Bluestar vehicles share the next iteration of the world's leading drive train architecture, consisting of water-cooled battery pack, motor, and power electronics, on board charger, and integrated vehicle energy management. The third iteration of the Tesla plug supports charging architectures in all target markets, be it J1772 AC, IEC 62186 (Mennekes) or DC quick charging standards.
Wasn't that a good bit of marketing burble!:biggrin:
*) after $7,500 tax credit
Battery and Drive Train Specifications
*) after $7,500 tax credit
**) to-be-announced, advanced cell chemistry optimized for automotive appliance.
*) charge power may be limited by the vehicle
Disclaimer I put this information together from informed speculation from the Blue Star Wish List thread and others. Feel free to point out additions and corrections and I will update to what seems to be the consensus.
Motivation Tesla announced Model S prices and options on Dec 22, 2011. They took reservations for general production and signature cars beginning of April, 2009. Though it was clear that reservation holders were putting their money on a "unicorn" with little but the sketchiest data, many were unpleasant with the announcements that Tesla made in the time between, with the latest climax being the announcement of options and prices. A non-exhaustive list of disappointments includes
- The platform is intended to spawn an 'affordable' vehicle suitable for mass production, priced at $30k after a $7500 tax credit.
- Release date of first vehicle based on that platform is 2015 or 2016.
- Tesla wants to position this platform in size, price, and utility against BMW 3 series.
Bluestar Platform - UNOFFICIAL Options and Prices Based on the Bluestar platform, Tesla hones its world-leading EV architecture to the next level. The refinement of that platform sticks with the Tesla brand of premium quality and performance while at the same time targets the affordable, mass-marketable vehicle promised years ago in the company blog. The platform not only spawns Model R, the long-anticipated successor to the Tesla Roadster, but also a compact-class family sedan named Model C.
All TESLA Bluestar vehicles share the next iteration of the world's leading drive train architecture, consisting of water-cooled battery pack, motor, and power electronics, on board charger, and integrated vehicle energy management. The third iteration of the Tesla plug supports charging architectures in all target markets, be it J1772 AC, IEC 62186 (Mennekes) or DC quick charging standards.
Wasn't that a good bit of marketing burble!:biggrin:
Model C | Model R | Model R Sport | |
class | three door compact family sedan | two door roadster | two door roadster |
seats | 5 | 2+2 | 2+2 |
availability | Summer 2016 | Summer 2015 | Winter 2015 |
base price | $29,900* | $44,900* | $64,900* |
standard features | 12" touch screen air condition electric power steering 6 air bags 17" wheels with all-weather tires 2 piston all wheel disc brakes | 15" touch screen air condition electric power steering quick charging 6 air bags 19" wheels with all-weather tires 4 piston front disc brakes | 15" touch screen air condition electric power steering quick charging 8 air bags pax retention system racing performance 6 piston front disc brakes 19" forged alloy wheels with performance tires leather interior carbon fiber accents + spoilers all wheel drive air suspension |
dimensions: height track wheelbase length | 58 in / 147cm 60 in / 152 cm 104 in / 264 cm 170 in / 431 cm | 54 in / 137 cm 60 in / 152 cm 104 in / 264 cm 162 in / 411 cm | same |
*) after $7,500 tax credit
Battery and Drive Train Specifications
Model C | Model C | Model C | Model R | Model R | Model R Sport | |
capacity | 30kWh | 45kWh | 60kWh | 45kWh | 60kWh | 60kWh |
base price | $29,900* | $34,900* | $39,900* | $44,900* | $49,900* | $64,900* |
cell type | 3.4Ah Li-ion NPP | 3.4Ah Li-ion NPP | 4Ah Li-ion ** | 3.4Ah Li-ion NPP | 4Ah Li-ion ** | 4Ah Li-ion ** |
# of cells | 2178 | 3267 | 3696 | 3267 | 3696 | 3696 |
range at 55mph | 140 miles | 200 miles | 255 miles | 210 miles | 270 miles | 270 miles |
max. power | 120kW | 180kW | 240kW | 185kW | 240kW | 255kW |
0-60 mph | 7.4s | 6.5s | 5.8s | 5.2s | 3.9s | 3.2s |
top speed | 105 mph | 110mph | 110mph | 120mph | 125mph | 130mph |
curb weight | 3275 lbs | 3425 lbs | 3615 lbs | 2245 lbs | 2325 lbs | 2490 lbs |
*) after $7,500 tax credit
**) to-be-announced, advanced cell chemistry optimized for automotive appliance.
Charging options
Model C - 30 | Model C - 45 | Model C - 60 | Model R - 45 | Model R - 60 | Model R Sport | |
AC on board charger 10kW | standard | standard | standard | standard | standard | standard |
additional 10kW charger | n/a | $900 | $900 | $900 | $900 | $900 |
DC supercharging up to 90kW | n/a | $1,200 | standard | $1200 | standard | standard |
CHAdeMO support * | n/a | $4,500 | $4,500 | $4,500 | $4,500 | $4,500 |
*) charge power may be limited by the vehicle
Disclaimer I put this information together from informed speculation from the Blue Star Wish List thread and others. Feel free to point out additions and corrections and I will update to what seems to be the consensus.
Motivation Tesla announced Model S prices and options on Dec 22, 2011. They took reservations for general production and signature cars beginning of April, 2009. Though it was clear that reservation holders were putting their money on a "unicorn" with little but the sketchiest data, many were unpleasant with the announcements that Tesla made in the time between, with the latest climax being the announcement of options and prices. A non-exhaustive list of disappointments includes
- only 300 mile range battery pack for signatures. Sig reservation holders opting for smaller pack sizes faced $20k or $10k price increase over the base and medium size packs.
- production starts with 300 mile battery pack sizes mid-2012, then 230 mile size in fall, then 160 mile size in winter 2012. Many reservation holders hoped that order of reservation numbers would correlate with production slot and now found that production of their vehicle would be postponed.
- signature reservation holders found that they pay $3550 to $5000 more than an equally optioned non-sig model, with a narrowed choice of options. In addition to that, Tesla denied rebates for downgrading from some of the options included in the Signature. Some were happy to get the car early, to get a uniquely badged and painted car, others felt very little reward in that and downgraded their reservation to general production.
- It came as a surprise to some that the smaller battery packs were not capable to sustain the same power for the top model acceleration and were rated down in performance and warranty by Tesla, plus the Tesla quick charging solution (aka supercharging) was only available as an option or not at all. Some reservations were dropped because of that.
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