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Are you sure? For instance, one I found says this:Not superchargers. Those are HPWCs. Different hotels have different policies - but I'd at least go in and have a coffee or something.
Tesla Connectors, up to 80A
You'll also find that these (HPWC) chargers are sometimes (in)conveniently located within Valet areas in basements.So - is a non-guest of the hotel permitted to charge for 30 min at a Supercharger? I see that they've added hotel superchargers as smaller dots on the official map. Has anyone tried using them without being a guest?
Thanks for the information! Very useful now that I'm starting to plan road trips with the family.Yup. Those are 208 to 240V AC EVSEs, usually around 80A. Tesla calls them HPWCs (High Powered Wall Connector) and they are the same thing you can buy with the car and install in your garage. They will charge your car at up to 20kW if you have twin chargers installed; you are limited to 10kW if you have a single charger in your car.
Are you sure? For instance, one I found says this:
In addition to the smaller dots, there are actual supercharger installations at hotels. The Flagstaff AZ, Gallup NM, and Moab Utah superchargers are at hotel/motels. When actual superchargers are located at motel/hotels, we do not have to ask for permission to use them.
To be a nitpicker:Thanks for the information! Very useful now that I'm starting to plan road trips with the family.
Forgive me - but at 10kW how many miles/hr is that?
To be a nitpicker:
If you're lucky, you find 240v at 40A, or 9.6kW.
Commercial locations in the US typically have 3-phase power, which means you get 208v at 40A, or 8.3kW.
Most charging locations other than HPWCs max out at 30A, so at a commercial location with 208v, you're looking at 6.25kW.
These differences are relatively unimportant if you're staying overnight at a hotel, but if you're waiting for a charge before moving on, it matters. It also makes you appreciate getting 90kW from a SuperCharger.
A painfully true statement. My office installed a charger at my prodding and it shows 198v @ 30A for a pathetic 18mph charge rate.
This adds nicely to the discussion about mini-superchargers and the fact that dual chargers are now a SC-installed accessory...
Tesla is helping to get more 80A chargers installed, but many of those are 200-208V and still only get you 16kW. Better than the oh-so-common 208V/20A "L2" chargers that can't refuel an 85 over night, but still... and of course the customer needs to have dual chargers which are uncommon already and will be even less common in the future.
Maybe Tesla's next step will be to offer a successor to the HPWC that is built from 3 chargers and offers 33kW charging. It seems that 208V/200A is an easily available commercial service drop, as is 480V/100A. My guess is that Tesla could offer a compact 33kW DC charger for about $5k for commercial installation...