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How much money will lose toyota with each car sold?
In the USA they will only sell this car in CA. Hyundai is only selling its FCEV in Southern CA.
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Why is this not brought up every time by the writer of every article out there? It should be noted every time so that the public can see the real act of wanting to lower the price and push FCEV, because if those companies really think it's the future car, they would be making it available in all states.
But, the hydrogen car earns 9 credits each, so Toyota needs only 790 individual sales over three model years, or 263 hydrogen cars per each model year during model years 2015 - 2017.
They are only LEASING the Hyundai car and only from 3 specific dealerships. They are also checking to see where the available hydrogen stations are relative to where prospective lessees live and work. Hyundai is also including the hydrogen at no cost to the lessee. Did they clear up the legality of selling hydrogen to individuals in California? Or is that an urban legend?If you want to make an even better point that this is a CARB circus/ science project Hyundai is only selling the Tuscon FCEV to residents of Los Angeles County and Orange County.
And don't underestimate the power of the word hydrogen. Some people hear hydrogen and they illogically think bomb.
It looks like similar to Model S price. New tech with high cost. I am early waiting for hybrid version for half the cost. I am not that good at technology but how about hydrogen range extender in BMW i3 or something similar car... zero emission and light on wallet.
It already is a hybrid. The fuel cell can't produce enough electric power to have acceptable acceleration. Fuel cell vehicles pretty much have to have a battery or other electrical storage mechanism to build up the trickle charge and release it quickly when needed, and recapture energy with regenerative breaking.
Anyway, to the comparison between the Model S and the Toyota Fool Cell, the Toyota is smaller, slower, less visually appealing, and will cost more to operate, and be less convenient for the bulk of usage, and also not be environmentally sustainable. I look forward to the Gen III coming out and still being faster, better looking, more environmentally friendly, more convenient, and half the cost.
Sorry if I missed this in another thread, but what's the reasoning again for Fuel Cell vehicles earning 9 credits each and BEVs earning 3 credits each in CA?
Also, one has to wonder why people insist on opposing fuel cell vehicles to electric vehicles, given that in both cases, the motor is powered by electrons