phantom braking

I’ve been abroad for 4 months, my 2023 Y LR up on blocks awaiting my return. I subscribed for several months and found FSD helpful on long freeway drives of thousands of miles around the West. However, the frequent ‘nagging’ struck me as unsafe, as it requires you to watch the screen rather than...

I own a '23 MYLR which I've had since Feb, no FSD. My wife just bought a '23 M3P that came with FSD for 3 months which just ended. I've run FSD in a combination of highway, suburban, and rural environments. Two things are very clear to me after three months. First, it's performance ranges...

I had phantom breaking events over several years, but recently, in both Model 3 FSD and Model Y AP, I saw almost no phantom breaking at all. And now I see this video from Patrick, the Ford Mach-E enthusiast. When I pointed out that what they see is not phantom breaking, I'v got this from...

Hi has anyone been having issues with the cruise control side of autopilot now and again breaking really sharply all of a sudden when travelling down a motorway and about to over take another vehicle, like it suddenly acts like your about to drive into the back of a car that's clearly in the...

I've been testing FSD since Jan 2022. The software improved from Jan 2022 to approx Nov 2022. Since then, it's been one disaster after another, often the newer release fixed a problem created by the prior release. The latest is no exception. Here's a summary of the latest disasters...

First, I am sorry about the clickbait title. I am a proud owner of a new model X (decided to take advantage of FSD transfer option). To give you some background - I've been an FSD beta tester since it was available (after a strenuous couple of weeks and a 99 safety score) for couple of years...

For several months now, when in bumper-to-bumper traffic, if my lane (usually the HOV lane, to the far left) is moving faster than the traffic in the lane to my right, my car, while on EAP, will suddenly lock onto one of the cars in the lane to the right and slow down as if it's actually in my...

I was in my 2018 S 100D a few months ago, cruising from Paso Robles to I-5 on what's known as the "James Dean Memorial" highway. There was a long stretch of straight road, cutting through the central valley heading east, no traffic in sight, and the car started braking. I glanced at the...

I own FSD. My opinion is FSD drives like an erratic teenager first time driver. Sometimes it's so slow it annoys you. Other times it leaves so little distance it scares you. It's jerky and not smooth. It automatically does lane changes on its own which I'd rather leave off and initiate myself...

My Model 3 was delivered in mid-August 2018. While I originally just had Enhanced Autopilot (EAP), I quickly paid the extra $2000 to get FSD as rumors swirled about Tesla charging more in the future. What's my opinion after 5 years of testing and playing with Tesla EAP and FSD? TLDR: It's pretty...

Here's the issue I observed 2 times over past 24 hours. Notably, this happened at the intersections that weren't previously seen as problematic. When making an unprotected left or right turn, FSD waits, commits to the turn and proceeds but then violently jerks steering wheel left/right and then...

I have got to be honest. Full Self Drive capability in Tesla goes further than any other vehicle designed by man (or woman) but it left me wanting for more. I bought my Model Y Long Range on Friday 9/1 and took it for a little ride from Houston to Corpus Christi on Sunday 9/3. Here are my first...

I still report bugs, particularly phantom braking, by hitting voice assistant and saying "Bug report: phantom braking" and it goes through. Is it even worth doing that? In this age of AI learning everything, does reporting like this even do anything?

I traded in my 2022 Model x - that had FSD Beta activated for a 2023 Model X Plaid - with HW4. Sort of disappointed that I went from a working FSD beta vehicle to one that is "waiting for a future update". Help me understand, have any HW4 vehicles had their FSD Beta activated? Does anyone...

This has been going on in my 3 for a month or more now across 2 software updates. Multiple times on my 10 mile commute, using autopilot, it will randomly just stop accelerating. Sometimes it happens while going through an intersection, sometimes not. I've tested it in the early morning on...

Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and am hoping to be able to learn more about my Model Y and - in particular - some tips of optimal configuration of the software. Given I'm in Australia (Sydney), my experiences might be a little different from others, but I'd appreciate any thoughts people...

About a month into ownership here. On the last few trips with AP; going home during rush hour in the HOV lane with a wall of cars to the right while cruising at 75mph the car will randomly drop into the 50s. I can’t figure out why but it brakes pretty hard. I’m sure the pile of cars behind me...

I live in Portland and often drive south on I-5 to visit my folks in southern Oregon - I have never had a phantom braking issue. My wife takes the X on a trip to Boise through eastern oregon and reports half a dozen phantom braking issues. Weird. We then went together this past weekend on same...

Just took a trip from Texas to Arizona on I-10 in my 2020 LR M3. From West TX to middle of AZ had about 15 instances of phantom braking. HARD braking - from 80 mph to 25 mph in seconds. Thankfully no traffic behind me or they could have easily hit me from the drastic slowdown. Had previously had...

Did a 4 hour round trip drive yesterday and I have to say that I hate how the FSD beta doesn't have an option to stop Auto lane changes because it constantly wanted to go from the highway cruising lane into the passing lane when no one was in front of me. It must have done it about 20 times...

Hey guys I'm taking delivery of my new Model 3 on Friday... but I've been a bit spooked reading various articles about the removal of radar in 2021 (2022 in our market - Australia), and the deactivation of radars on cars which do have them. I've had a Mazda CX-5 until now, and while the auto...

I have a 2020 Model X and was an FSD Beta "test driver" for several months. I downloaded the latest FSD Beta update - presumably the one that serves as the "recall" required by NHTSA - two weeks ago. Since then, my car continues to make the same mistakes it was making under the previous...

I've had 2022.44.11 for three days now, and for the first time since receiving it, I did a 45-minute drive after dark. (It actually began at late dusk, and by the end it was completely dark.) This drive was mostly on the highway, and phantom braking was awful. I experienced it probably about a...

Phantom braking is unsettling and seems like it could cause a rear ending incident but I've yet to hear of a single case where this has happened. Out of the millions of miles that Teslas have driven with automation, there should be multiple reports of accidents if this were truly a problem...

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Just recently took another long drive in my 2022 Model S LR and tried out TACC and AP again. (I didn't purchase FSD since it's not ready for prime time). Still serious problems: - Multiple phantom braking episodes on deserted straight roads (single and double lane) - Multiple "Collision warning"...

My M3 is still on 2022.20.X - I stopped updating ~4 months ago when they turned off the radar in favour of Tesla Vision. Everyone on here and the subreddit was saying how phantom braking is worse, which I didn't really like, but the real dealbreaker for me was requiring the auto high beams...

I absolutely love my Model 3. I have had it for just over 3 years now and enjoyed driving every mile of the 42,000 miles that I have clocked till today. Most of the mileage has been on the highway and the remainder was miles that I racked up while commuting for work before the pandemic. When I...

I've been in the beta program since 10.2 and - while there have certainly been regressions - FSDb has gone from being erratic and scary to quite predictable, almost boring! Zero intervention trips are now common, and even my long daily commute only has a couple of them, usually at predictable...

Hi guys, Just wanted to share an experience that I've had today so that others looking at Teslas to use for long distance driving can make an informed decision. My wife and I drove our 2023 MYLR from Tucson to Las Vegas. It's a ~7 hour drive (8.5 with charging stops, ~400 miles) mostly...

https://www.ktvu.com/news/multi-car-crashes-disrupt-thanksgiving-day-travel-on-bay-bridges I'm not trolling but ran across this. I wonder if it could be related to a phantom braking incident. Was hoping maybe locals had additional insight.

I'm currently driving across Canada in light winter conditions and have had to fight with cruise control a lot more than I'd like. When you activate cruise control you are also engaging Autopilot even if you don't have the Full Self Driving package. And because Autopilot depends on the car's...

So, I know this isn't the FSD Beta, but if there is a trickle down of software to the features that were available, I am incredibly disappointed. I just took a 1000 mile trip and there are so many errors and bugs that I just preferred to turn off NoAP and drive on my own. List of things I...

To me, this is the single biggest issue that I have with FSD and it’s the reason that I am so reluctant to use it when there are cars behind me. I hit the camera icon on the screen whenever there is an event, but how does the development team know what the event was and why I’m sending them...

Because of it's utter stupidity I've decided to rename my Y: Nervous Nelly. The next step will be to sell it. In cruse control (aka: whatever they call it) it drives like a stupid child with bad eyesight. I can't even count the number of times it's braked for no reason. It is only a...

This weekend was the first road-trip since May and oh boy is TACC vision only different than the older radar enabled versions for my 2019 Model 3. We were driving back from Llano Texas after a fun weekend in Fredericksburg and the roads from Llano to Fort Worth are primarily small country roads...

Technical thread here: H/W 4.0 technical discussion

Near my house is a spot on a 45 MPH highway where 10.69.2.2 always puts on the brakes, hard. It almost comes to a stop before picking up speed again. I've reported it multiple times. Today there was a car behind me for the first time. When I reached the phantom braking spot, instead of...

I started the $250 FSD subscription a few days ago and have been using Navigate on Autopilot (NOA). I have not tried other included features yet so at this time I can only commend about this particular function. Generally I do like NOA but I have experienced a few hiccups. The biggest “issue”...

Since I got FSD beta and Tesla switched to a "vision only" system I have been having several random braking whether driving on interstate or state highways (2018 Model S). This happens noticeably when driving with no one in front of me. It has made highway travel an annoyance while having AP...

Today I experienced phantom braking with Beta when vehicles come up behind to pass. This is dangerous as a closely following vehicle hardly expects the vehicle in front to suddenly slow down. I've read of phantom braking in other scenarios, but not from passing vehicles. Anyone else experience...

While driving 80mph on a highway and my lane was clear of traffic in front of me. However, traffic visualization displayed a small sedan in front of my car, adjacent to the semi I was passing. As I approached closer to the false car, automatic emergency braking suddenly engaged and slowed me...

When driving along the motorway, I get a few phantom braking incidents for each hour of driving (roughly and on average). I totally understand this happens to everyone so I'm not alone but a few questions. What's the best way to deal with this in terms of reporting? I sometimes disengage AP...

Here is the compilation of FSD Beta releases, starting with 10. All this information comes from Teslafi. Employee only dates are ignored. Release : Release number. Releases that most of the testers got are in bold and I'm calling them "major releases". Build : Software build number. Date ...

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Here is a poll to crowdsource Highway Phantom Braking experience stats. This is for Vision only - so you should either have no-radar Tesla or you are on FSD Beta. By frequent, I mean, it is so much that it actually prevents you from using AP on highways or you take precautions when using it...

Heya! I received my 2022 MYP Dec. 28. Delivery was fantastic and car was perfect inside and out. I missed out on the Ryzen upgrade, unfortunately, but oh well! Happily received the car and have been driving it for about 6 weeks around town. We did our first long (1200 mile RT) trip in the...

https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/2/22914236/tesla-phantom-braking-complaints-nhtsa-fsd https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/02/tesla-phantom-braking/

Yeah, it's bad. I'll be cruising along at 70 mph and my Model Y sees a yellow caution sign with flashing lights and hits the brakes. I push the camera icon to report each incident. Not sure how much that helps, if at all.

The next big milestone for FSD is 11. It is a significant upgrade and fundamental changes to several parts of the FSD stack including totally new way to train the perception NN. From AI day and Lex Fridman interview we have a good sense of what might be included. - Object permanence both...