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Wow. That is…not good.
Never seen anyone post accident video with more glee than you.
2022.4.5.3; don’t think it has FSDb features:Yikes! Would love to know what version of AP it was running and if it was using FSD Beta or highway AP.
That doesn't look like a difficult situation for AP at all. FSD Beta can consistently see stopped vehicles like that (in my testing at least), so I'd be very curious if current releases would still crash in that situation.
A good reminder to always pay attention when using advanced driver assistance systems.
If AP can't even detect a stopped car, there's no way FSDb is even close to being ready. But that's not surprising.If autopilot failed, that's the biggest failure I've seen. Driver should have been paying attention, but that's neither here nor there.
Partial automation goes against the way our brains work. If something works 99.9% of the time, our brains expect it to work all of the time, and when we're not engaged, we "space out" and start to ignore stuff we shouldn't ignore. I almost never use AP and if I do use it, it's generally for not more than 3-5 minutes, and this is why. I tried using ACC once (not on the Tesla, but on another car a few years ago) and drove for around 30 miles with it on (still had to steer) and when a car cut into my lane suddenly, it took longer than it would have normally taken to hit the brakes, because I had gotten used to the car monitoring traffic and adjusting speed. I still had to be engaged with the task of steering, mind you, but I just had gotten used to the car managing the task of managing the speed and started to see driving as a steering-only activity, kind of like a situation where you have a co-pilot managing other aspects of the system. If things can get that bad when you're still engaged with the task of steering, imagine how bad things can get when you don't have to do anything. Expecting someone to suddenly take control in an exceptional situation after allowing him or her to become completely disengaged just goes against human tendencies.What driver would allow his car to do this? I don't care if any aids were engaged, this is idiocy.
If AP can't even detect a stopped car, there's no way FSDb is even close to being ready. But that's not surprising.
I’m actually not that shocked by this. Basing it on how the cameras/software routinely will see (for example) my garage door closed 6 feet ahead/nothing at all is behind me, yet sometimes (but not all the time)still places the car in drive vs reverse when in the auto-direction select mode.Yikes! Would love to know what version of AP it was running and if it was using FSD Beta or highway AP.
That doesn't look like a difficult situation for AP at all. FSD Beta can consistently see stopped vehicles like that (in my testing at least), so I'd be very curious if current releases would still crash in that situation.
Even someone with bad cataracts can see and stop for pedestrians -- at 5 mph. But apparently AP can't detect cars when going over 60 mph that a human without cataracts could easily see from 5+ seconds away.FSDb clearly can detect stopped vehicles though - just drive around with the FSDb visualization and stopped vehicles are identified accurately and from far away.
Only Teslas have cameras that capture stuff at this angle:I could not tell from the video, are we sure that this is a Tesla and that AP actually was engaged?