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SpaceX Starship - Integrated Flight Test #2 - Starbase TX - Including Post Launch Dissection
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I mean... gravity and the prevailing winds would be sources of control, right?Thank you!
I love the language: “Navigational hazards from rocket launching activity may include… descending vehicles or vehicle components, under various means of control.”
Or a complete lack of control.
It’s hard to believe the FAA can move so quickly and approve the next flight right after SpaceX submitted their report.
Given the FTS issue was kind of significant, and SpaceX just recently submitted the mishap report, I wonder if 2 weeks from now is sufficient time for the FAA to evaluate the revised plan?
Seeing as how SpaceX has filed the Mariner's notice data with the Coast Guard, I guess they think so.
If so, that seems impressive for a gov't agency.
Seeing as how SpaceX has filed the Mariner's notice data with the Coast Guard, I guess they think so.
If so, that seems impressive for a gov't agency.
Any reason to think SpaceX hasn’t been in communication with the FAA on their progress since OFT-1?
Plan needed to adress the issues, and it does:
Bigger FTS, with test data
Bigger deluge system and steel plate, with test data
Newer engines with better shielding, better venting, and more redundant electric TVC (may be out of scope)
Nothing specific, I just don't know how collaborative these sorts of things are. My experience with Gov't entities ( I worked or one for 20 yrs), is that they tend to wait until the submission of any/all required docs and only then start their (often glacial) processes...
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Definitely depends on the people involved. Elon's past posts have seemed to indicate a good (though lagging regulation wise) environment.
SpaceX is a prominent NASA contractor, and is responsible for the creation of a rapidly-reusable super heavy lift rocket. That's a strategic asset for the United States. You can believe that they go to the front of every government line when they need something. So if the only thing standing in the way of SpaceX is a government employee enforcing rules, you can believe that things will move along quickly.
It is when citizens would get upset that things get serious. The environmental groups seem to be more of a nuisance than anything else. I doubt the population at large is going to be incensed by SpaceX damaging some nesting sites. But compare that with SpaceX getting their hands on Boca Chica Village or the parcels of land inside Starbase. SpaceX can't just walk over those people and claim that land. Texans take that sort of thing very seriously. If word got out, a whole mess of cowboys would mobilize. Politicians would take note. Regulators could no longer play fast and loose.
SpaceX will be fine so long as they don't blow up Corpus Christi or some such disastrous thing. Regulators can only be accommodating so long as SpaceX doesn't make any big mistakes that impact the people of the country. It's a shame that the land there was ever of interest to anyone.
But it kinda had to be like that, else SpaceX would have had to build really long access roads. It was a conscious decision on their part to use land that had services nearby since they wanted to get their skunk works project up and going quickly.
Eric Berger: SpaceX completes successful hot fire test of its massive Starship rocket
Regarding the static fire,I’m expecting SpaceX to figure out why those two engines shutdown early, fix them, and do another static fire before ITF-2. They’ve got the time to resolve the issue, so why not do it?
Because doing risky things may be an essential part of their culture. It's the adrenaline that keeps them sharp. It may be that if they dot all the i's and cross all the t's, they'll end up like the rest of the aerospace industry, spending inordinate amounts of time and money doing almost nothing but dotting i's and crossing t's. It becomes cultural.
SpaceX has time to look at the problem, but they may already know that the fix isn't a change they can make to Booster 9. So it goes as it is. They may even know the problem and have implemented changes in later boosters to address it. Who knows?
Alternately, this is a fundamental problem that could affect all engines and they'll ground the entire project for a year while they sort it out. As with all things like this, we'll just have to wait and see. Only SpaceX has the data and the expertise to know how to move forward.
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Yea it’s encouraging that the water shield system seems to be working as designed however a 6% failure rate on the engines is not so encouraging. In aerospace, that’s way outside of acceptable tolerances for just about everything. So there undoubtedly will be some serious looking at that.
Still, forward process. Positive overall.
Still, forward process. Positive overall.
Last night S25 was rolled to the launch site and is now in position for lifting and stacking!
SpaceX is not wasting any time. It looks like they are getting ready to lift S25. NSF livestream
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Currently there are several SpaceX personnel working at the Ship QD. Perhaps they are just ensuring that everything is okay before making the connections, since with the addition of the hot staging ring making the booster taller the QD arm was raised higher.
Yeah, this it the first time this combination has been tried. I imagine some alignment would be needed.
Looks like the Ship QD has now been connected. From the NSF livestream:
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