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Small appetizer
Just asking the stupid question here but ... You have selected No in the "Require Lane Confirmation" option, right?
This type of questions have proven really useful when debugging stuff
Pass it over here, then, I'll happily test what you won'tNo, give it’s alpha software at best I’d prefer to confirm it’s intent before it does it until I trust it, I’m not debugging with my life, you can choose to do so when you get it.
That’s totally reasonable. Especially since your recording rig is effectively distracted driving.... I would argue old school Autosteer is reasonably safe to supervise on the highway while recording. But fully automatic lane changes requires so much supervising that you can’t really record with your hands while double checking lane changes as well as dealing with a high likelihood of needing to take back control.No, give it’s alpha software at best I’d prefer to confirm it’s intent before it does it until I trust it, I’m not debugging with my life, you can choose to do so when you get it.
No, give it’s alpha software at best I’d prefer to confirm it’s intent before it does it until I trust it, I’m not debugging with my life, you can choose to do so when you get it.
Fair thing, I was just asking because you said "but not much to see it didn’t take any actions for me" my assumption is without that option on it would only suggest actions, right?
Anyway, thanks for recording these videos!
It’s suppose to turn on the blinker to request a lane change and then you confirm it with the stalk, at least that’s what the release notes say...
Interesting, from the release notes and denis pictures I was assuming that it would show gray lines and then by using the stalk it would initiate it, it would be pretty annoying if it starts to turn on the blinker in cases that you don't want to change lanes ...
So I’m not sure if @BigD0g already stated this but have you noticed any autosteer improvements?
It does not matter. FSD or not the driver needs to pay attention at all times. Any use of electronic device means you are not.
If you want to use your hand held device while in the car you will need to do what the rich Chinese do; sit in the back and hire a chauffeur.
But the whole point of level 3 and higher autonomy is that the driver is not expected to pay attention or control the car at all times.
Ya! my hand is on the steering wheel all the time and I got nagged if I don't deliberate squeeze the wheel from time to time. Or, if I hold the steering wheel a little firm, I may get "kick-out" of the autopilot mode. Tesla's autopilot nagging feature should do a better job to letting the driver holding their steering wheel the way they wanted. This "safety feature" reminded me of the "master-slave-processors" architecture where the "slave" (us the driver) requires reporting to the "master" (the AI processor) every few seconds in order not to get knocked down. C'mon Tesla, treat your loyal customer with some dignity would you?And by the way, the nag is horrible
Ya! my hand is on the steering wheel all the time and I got nagged if I don't deliberate squeeze the wheel from time to time. Or, if I hold the steering wheel a little firm, I may get "kick-out" of the autopilot mode. Tesla's autopilot nagging feature should do a better job to letting the driver holding their steering wheel the way they wanted. This "safety feature" reminded me of the "master-slave-processors" architecture where the "slave" (us the driver) requires reporting to the "master" (the AI processor) every few seconds in order not to get knocked down. C'mon Tesla, treat your loyal customer with some dignity would you?
Sorry, I was speaking of V8. My guess is V9 should behave the same as V8. My point is: if Tesla setting a rule for the driver to follow then it should not inflict additional pain while enforcing the rule.So using/clicking some of the steering wheel buttons or using the turn signal is not removing the nag anymore?
Ya! my hand is on the steering wheel all the time and I got nagged if I don't deliberate squeeze the wheel from time to time. Or, if I hold the steering wheel a little firm, I may get "kick-out" of the autopilot mode. Tesla's autopilot nagging feature should do a better job to letting the driver holding their steering wheel the way they wanted. This "safety feature" reminded me of the "master-slave-processors" architecture where the "slave" (us the driver) requires reporting to the "master" (the AI processor) every few seconds in order not to get knocked down. C'mon Tesla, treat your loyal customer with some dignity would you?
Plenty of phantom breaking, will try it on some challenging roads tomorrow
This is a v9 thread. Don't confuse us.Sorry, I was speaking of V8. My guess is V9 should behave the same as V8. My point is: if Tesla setting a rule for the driver to follow then it should not inflict additional pain while enforcing the rule.