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Model 3 boot sizes over the years?

Has the model 3 boot varied over the years or into the Highland facelift?
I was browsing reviews and older reviews list 425l, and newer reviews and the manual list it as 594l! Which if its right and not a reporting anomaly (maybe the 425 doesn't include the under trunk?) is a massive 40% uplift!

Tesla Model 3 (2024) boot space & practicality Makes it look very different, but its a tough photo and hard to gauge by eye how much is difference and how much is just lighting.

Anyone had experience of both to confirm/deny/comment?

(also why oh why oh why didn't they put a long things pass through the rear seats in the highland? The Y has one so its not like they don't know its useful :()

Pickup Model Y on Saturday

First time Tesla owner. Been looking to get into the EV game for a while and finally convinced myself that I don't need a truck right now. Test drove one last week and its definitely a drastic change from a lifted truck but the MY was awesome. Hopefully I won't have any regrets. Also have a Cybertruck reservation but a very late one so I have a while.

Question, trade-in still says pending but there is a trade-in value showing up now under the financing details and the final payment has a negative value. Is this normal? Haven't heard back from Tesla yet.
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Electric new sales S-Curve

Ive been seeing a lot of analysis that the transition from ICE to Electric cars will take on a S-Curve shape, and 5% EV sales is the tipping point to join the S-Curve, but none of those graphs ever have any X axis... like how many years does the S curve take. Does it need consistent subsidies per country etc.

So I decided to pull a few country data in different markets with different EV stimulus's to see if there is any alignment of the S-curve, and what can we expect in Australia, since we ticked over 5% this year (now over 8%).

I chose these countries:
Norway - The leader which is already at 83%, and will show if there really is an S shape.
Iceland - The next biggest penetration of EV cars for new sales, although last year there was a slowing of growth.
France - A typical European country.
China - The big player in Asia.
and little old Australia.

Here it is. Each country has their own year they hit 5%, and so I have lined up that transition point to be the same year (year 10 as shown below).

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Conclusions:
It really is an S curve.
Every country is following Norway's lead pretty accurately.
Norway is planning to stop selling ICE cars in 2025 (year 21 in this graph) which is 11 years after they had the 5% transition of sales.
This means that its very likely Australia will also stop selling ICE cars in 11 years which is 2034.
Policy variation between countries doesnt make much difference

Flinders Ranges, Uluru and King's Canyon - possible?

Thank you for any sage advice here, it will be appreciated!

We are looking (a bit later this year, possibly early next year) of taking a long overdue and long holiday.

I am currently planning a route from the Hunter Valley, over Melbourne, through the Adelaide Hills... and thought about extending that a bit further to cover the Flinders Ranges, Uluru and King's Canyon. Whilst I went to the Flinders Ranges as a young lad, we have never been together to Flinder Ranges, and neither of us have ever been to Uluru etc.

Of course we are planning to stop a bit along the way at places like Coober Pedy - I suspect Mrs Midnight Man will end up with an opal or two from there. There may be some other things to stop at along the way - I am not sure - but largely, it seems this leg of the trip will be about getting to Uluru before the fun stuff begins?

I've been looking at charging options along the way - and sadly, due to my work in IT (where every second thought is "What if this or that fails?"), there doesn't seem to be much in the way of back-up charging options along the way - and furthermore, there seems to be no charging option at King's Canyon (a round-trip from Erldunda to King's Canyon is 550km, well outside the range of an MY RWD).

Has anyone done this trip before? Any sage advice to offer a relatively new, and nervous EV driver who is risk averse? :)

EDIT: I have a Mennekes Type 2 cable (7.5m) and Tesla UMC charger with 10A and 15A tails. What other cables should one pack along?
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Tesla still has build quality concern.

Model Y LR, delivered at Nov. 2023, Manufactured in Austin

Out of the delivery center, I didn't notice anything usually until I drove faster than 50mph. It gives a high-pitch squeak(over my head), depending on the wind, it comes and goes, with higher or lower whistle sound. At first I though it was wind/road noise but soon I realized it's not. Then it becomes consistent, sometimes it comes around as low as 40mph, sometimes it comes around 70mph. I know it's a manufacture defect, but I was busy and usually don't use highway too often so I keep postponing to take it to service. Until this week with software updating issue, I finally scheduled the service.

The technician immediately acknowledged the problem, and he's familiar with the problem since he has seen many problems like this. So basically it is a manufacture defect(not sure only in Austin or Fremont or both) with the either the pillars, windshield glass or even roof glass as he explained. He has done replacing those for few model Ys already. After carefully diagnosing, mine is left A-Pillar causing the problem and they did a replacement of that. It took them half day to figure out exactly which parts causing the problem and another half day to replace it, all based on their previous experience as he claimed. (replacing A-pillar is a relatively small job, if it's roof glass or windshield, it would take much longer and they also need to order the parts first)

Good work of the technician and I am happy that my squeak problem is fixed in such a reasonable time. However, I am kind of disappointed that over these years Tesla still has quality problem like this for a mature product. I never had such issue buying other cars before. Hopefully that's the only one defect, but who knows...

My next door neighbor bought TMY a little later and so far I haven't heard his complains(good). However, one of my friends who bought TMY half year earlier than me, already had TWICE shift gear not working problem -- can't put on D drive. They took it to service center also twice and they didn't find out what's wrong, but they did some firmware update or something like that. So far it hasn't happened yet but still they are worried.

Need Advice on allstate declaring my bumper/panel damage totaled!

My 90 was hit while parked. The guy left a note but his Allstate insurance says the estimate from my shop (Brooks motors in nor cal) of 20k means it is totalled. See my pics. It is ugly but it still drives and charges and trunk opens. And most of all it has FUSP. So the Allstate guy says he will send an estimate of what he thinks the car is worth. At most they have offered is 4k. I have amica insurance but havent moved on a claim with them thinking going 3rd party with Allstate would take care of it. Guess i was naive. So should i find another shop who can give a lower estimate? Dont know of any such place and brooks did a great job on a prior accident my wife had. Just file a claim with my insurance? Advice appreciated. My 90 has been working like a champ and dont want to give it up, but i guess its age is starting to be an issue and this could be more than 20k according to the shop
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PSA, if you're in the mood for some great wwhitney content...

I miss the days when @wwhitney would give amazing advice about PV+ESS installs on TMC.

If you miss such Tier-1 content as well, you need to check out the TerryLove plumbing forums. My contractor screwed up the venting of our bath tub, and I was researching about how the vent should have been run.

I come across a post that sounded like what @wwhitney used to provide here on TMC. It turns out, the plumbing advice was coming from @wwhitney.

As always, I'm the ID10T noob-dumb-ass who didn't know how venting was supposed to be run during rough-in. And it was apparently my job to tell the GC before he tiled over. Who knew. Of course, Wayne would have known. Anyway, now I know a lot about venting thanks to Wayne. The guy is an infinite source of information.

If you've got some time to kill and want to learn about plumbing, PEX, P-traps, and vents, you gotta check this out the forum. His post history is gold.

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FSD V12 and robotaxi rollout poll

Has FSD V12 made you more bullish about a Tesla robotaxi trial in the next 3 years?

  • More bullish

    Votes: 23 35.4%
  • Less bullish

    Votes: 4 6.2%
  • About the same - I always thought it would happen in the next 3 years

    Votes: 10 15.4%
  • About the same - I never thought it would happen in the next 3 years

    Votes: 28 43.1%

We've all heard about FSD V12 and we've seen the videos. Are we getting closer to a Tesla robotaxi trial? Has V12 made you more bullish?

Using only the camera turn signal when changing lanes

Does anyone really need to use the mirrors? The camera that comes up with the turn signal gives you a much better view and even a red flash warning if someone is beside you

I saw highland has a blind spot light by the mirrors now but wondered what that was even needed for when you have the camera

Phone key muddle

Hi all. Can you help me work out wtf I’ve done wrong.

So I share my M3LR 2021 with my wife we both have happily used our phones as keys and all has worked fine. Sometimes when we both go to the car and she’s driving it sees me and presents my profile but a manual change to her profile resolves. Other than that no issues.

Over the past week my wife started complaining that the car wasn’t recognising her phone as a key and that she had to use the key card.

So, forgetting the fact she was in the states last week and had all Bluetooth off and probably roaming etc I dived straight into solution mode. My theory was that some update or other had corrupted her profile, mine was unaffected and I had no issues. Please note this is STILL the case.

So I googled and YouTubed and reminded myself how to delete a profile and reinstate her phone as a key.

I went into my own Tesla app and by selecting manage drivers I deleted her profile. I went into the car and selected locks and tried to delete her profile. Not sure that was successful.

So now onto the add driver part and this is where it all seemed to go belly up.

Armed with my wife’s key card and her phone I opened her app and my car had disappeared. The only way forward I can see is to add a new product ie my car. Following this through the app asked for the VIN etc. I wasn’t expecting to do this.

I know it’s supposed to be easy but WTF have I done wrong?

Each time I left my OWN phone far away from the car so as to not confuse profiles etc.

She’s now away to work with the car but using the card as entry only.

Pretty sure it’s me and not the car any idiots guide for an idiot to resolve the issue?

NHTSA make roads across the world less safe

An observation, id love input on...

NHTSA force Tesla to set up the 5 strike system.
Road deaths are going up in Australia and around the world, one big reason for this is people checking phones, and generally doing things in the car other than operating it.
In a Tesla you have the option to lock the car in the centre of the lane and keep it from hitting the car infront, simply by engaging autopilot.
You can sit like this and see cars all around you ping ponging as people arse around with their phones while driving.

Tesla put out a advertorial showing how they don't just rely on the crash test, they use real world data to make their cars safer in crash tests.
Well this is real world, people shouldn't check their phones, but they do!

We used to have the option to make our cars safer, but now if you check your phone with autopilot engaged you risk losing that helpful function, so now Tesla drivers get to ping pong all over the road in an unsafe manor like everyone else or they risk losing their wingman!

WTG NHTSA!

I know some of you are likely just itching to tell me its the law.
Wonderful, it's the law, cling to your piece of paper..... Did that stop anyone acting this way or save a life on the road?

BTW big changes in 2024 Model Y vs 2023 earlier Model Y

Just went to the car show and then the tesla store, I'm noticing some big changes in 2024 Model Y vs 2023 Model Y namely:

  1. Trunk felt liner is now all the way to shoulder part where you put the trunk lid and goes into the sides of the backseat. This potentially reduces the tinny sound, and also definitely fixes the seat belt issue where it clangs on the side plastic.
  2. Middle seat is completely redesigned, the middle headrest is now super stiff, and cannot go up more than 2 clicks. It now clicks and locks down rather than in the 2023 where it just floats. The middle seat also is super stiff and stuck into the seat compared to the current loose version where you need to put electrical tape on the metal shaft to keep it in place.
  3. They've also increased the diameter of the metal shaft that keeps the middle seat in place, which makes sense why it feels far sturdier than before.
  4. Back seats also feel a lot more firm, rather than feeling flimsy. I am able to shake my back seat in 2023 whereas in 2024, I am unable to even make it move.
  5. the 2 rubber pieces on bottom of the trunk are now far smaller, and wider apart, not sure what this means from a design point of view but they seem to be better. Trunk also closes far more quiet than the 2023 model
I'm guessing a vast majority of rattle will be fixed in the 2024 Model Y, can owners please respond and see if they've noticed a big difference?

Not a single news or forum has brought this up. It seems like a huge update to fix rattling issues.

Teslabox: ervaringen

Vandaag ben ik begonnen met het installeren van Teslabox op mijn Raspberry Pi 5 4GB, samen met de originele Tesla USB-stick.

Tot nu toe lijkt de software goed te werken. Het slaat alle beelden van mijn ritten netjes op en stuurt een samenvattend filmpje naar mijn Telegram.

Vooral de Sentry-optie valt op; het geeft vrijwel direct een foto en een volgend filmpje weer waarin het de bewegingen rondom de auto volgt.

Ik ben benieuwd naar andere gebruikerservaringen met Teslabox. Wie gebruikt dit nog meer en wat zijn je ervaringen?

Charging cable management?

I charge at work and I mount my own cable each time I start charging using the wall mounted L2 charger with Type 2 plug.

The cable is about 2-3 times longer than it should for this use case and it ends up on the floor.

I can’t mount anything extra on the wall.

I tried an elastic cord to organize the slack into a heavy loop on the charger side but it ends up being in diagonal to my charge port so now my cable rests on my car because I back up to the charger.

I’ve read others use a bicycle stand for this and have the extra cable rest on it.

Wondering if there are any other ways I didn’t consider of taking the slack easy and fast while keeping the charger off the floor and car so it remains clean.

Vendor Wish you could reduce Supercharging usage? Looking for testers

Hello, I’m Doug. I'm looking for testers to provide feedback. I'll deliver the unit for free then I just want to get your input on your experience and to understand what you think. No, I don't charge anything. I just want feedback.

If you rely on a supercharger/public chargers and you'd love to reduce time and money spent there, then I think you'll be a great candidate to give feedback. I have been working on this for 2 years. I live in an apartment and I have a 110V plug and installing L2 in my landlord's property doesn't make any sense (way too expensive and I move around).

DockCharged: provides level 2 charge rates with $0 installation cost.

How it works: It uses batteries and software to turn a 110V outlet into an L2 capable charger. It stores energy while you're away at work and sends stored battery energy directly into the car and in parallel sends 110V into the car (no, other battery back up systems cannot do this. My invention is the only one that can do this due to all the custom software and hardware).
  • Get up to 100 miles of charge in a night.
  • Reduce cost: Avoid on-peak energy rates but still charge during on-peak hours by using energy stored during off peak hours
  • It turns any 110V outlet into a level 2 charger and is designed for EV owners in apartments, condos, and old homes where installing L2 is not allowed or too expensive.
  • It is very easily movable and it can be fitted in your trunk but best experience is leaving it plugged into 110V and pretty much left in one spot.
  • I personally save 5 hours and $110 per month by reducing my reliance on the supercharger.
Video of our beta unit and how it works:

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Feel free to DM or message me here. Thanks so much. Doug

2019 Model 3 opvolger kiezen

Net als ik zijn er ongetwijfeld op dit forum veel 2019 model 3 rijders die nu al, of de komende maanden zich gaan verdiepen in een opvolger.
Ik ben benieuwd wat waarvoor jullie hebben gekozen of (denken te) gaan kiezen.

Ik heb gereden in de Model 3 Highland SR en de Model y LR en ter vergelijking ook in een Volvo XC40 en Audi Q4-45.
Ik ben sinds 2019 een best tevreden Tesla rijder en heb voorkeur om bij Tesla te blijven.

Ik wil een hogere zit en dan valt de Highland helaas af. Helaas, want een flinke stap vooruit en ik vind het vooral van de achterkant een erg mooie auto.
Model Y LR is op zich al een verbetering tov mijn 2019 Model 3, maar nadeel dat ik het van voren geen schoonheid vind, dat je ze op iedere hoek van de straat ziet en dat ergens het komend jaar de Juniper update gaat komen.

Voordeel van de Model Y is dat mijn werkgever een parelwitte LR erg aantrekkelijk maakt wat qua netto maandelijkse kosten een overslaanbare aanbieding is. Helaas valt er dan niets te configureren. Enige wat ik zou willen toevoegen zijn de 20” velgen, maar met het geld dat ik op zak houd door de ‘standaard LR’ te kiezen kan ik wel ergens een paar knappe zwarte wielen kopen.

Aangezien mijn huidige contract eind juni afloopt, hoopte ik dat ergens rond die tijd Model Y Juniper zou verschijnen, maar na de laatste berichten (US markt) lijkt dat eerder 2025 te worden. (Tenzij men Europa toch eerder gaat voorzien).

Optie zou nog zijn om na inleveren auto een pool auto te gaan rijden en te wachten totdat Juniper beschikbaar komt en dan te bestellen, maar dat kan best nog lang duren.

Benieuwd naar jullie afwegingen en keuze.

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