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Ok but your scary example was at 10:00am and so had nothing to do w/ flashing lights and everything to do w/ expensive-looking car. My contention is that flashing lights don't attract ne'er do-wells, expensive cars do. You act like people are just wandering around in the dark like bugs being helplessly attracted to blinking lights. I just don't think that's the case. The car thieves I've known about work in pairs or more and drive around looking for cars to steal - able to cover a lot more ground that way. So anyone driving by will see your car in their headlights and if they want to mess with it they will, blinking lights or not.If I'm on a roadtrip and charging my Roadster overnight, I'd prefer there not be a flashing light saying 'hey look over here in the dark!'. Some of the places I've found to plug in at night have been behind Super 8 motel or at the Rabobank in the next parking lot away from the hotel. Drawing extra attention to the car is not high on my list.
It doesn't have to be a high crime area for it to be a problem, as I learned a few years back while charging in Reno. Charging Lessons
No it makes sense at MANY workplaces that offer charging. EVERY OTHER EV PORT BLINKS WHILE CHARGING AND SHUTS OFF WHEN COMPLETE> cant tell you the number of times ive been unplugged as people thought absence of charging light means im done. At least offer the option, super easy to doI think only 2 out of 111 locations can share a charger, having the ability to remove a cable from someone who is fully charged indicated by a blinking light & unlocked or something makes sense at these chargers only, but at the rest of the locations stay away from other peoples charging cables becuase you still can't use the stall until they leave anyways.
It's so that in the darkness, attention isn't drawn to the car when it's charging overnight.
if you press the button on the charge handle of a car in the middle of a supercharge (locked) what happens?
No it makes sense at MANY workplaces that offer charging. EVERY OTHER EV PORT BLINKS WHILE CHARGING AND SHUTS OFF WHEN COMPLETE> cant tell you the number of times ive been unplugged as people thought absence of charging light means im done. At least offer the option, super easy to do
#stupiddesign
They use this as the go-ahead signal to unplug the car and plug their own car in. This is very common behavior in parking decks, etc., especially office buildings. This creates one more issue for Teslas when trying to share public chargers with other non-Tesla EVs.
This breaks down when a Tesla owner joins the group since there is no visible way to tell when the Tesla is done charging (and many people assume it is done when dark as that is how every other EV works).
super great except when you are charging at work or a non SC spot then Tesla becomes the outlier that doesnt conform to charging norms (ie ALL OTHER EV's HAVE LIT CHARGE PORT WHEN CHARGING) #WTFTESLAMy idea is to make the TESLA letters on the SC station change color.
Available = RED (weird to be a GO type of signal, but that's the normal color for the company)
Broken = OFF/WHITE
Charging = Flashing or another color
Don't public chargers either have a screen that tells you what it is doing or have a time limit and then turn off?super great except when you are charging at work or a non SC spot then Tesla becomes the outlier that doesnt conform to charging norms (ie ALL OTHER EV's HAVE LIT CHARGE PORT WHEN CHARGING) #WTFTESLA
I think the idea was that other people, not the driver, could know whether finished charging or not.The Tesla app for iOS or Android, or the Visible Tesla desktop gives way more information without drawing attention to the car. You know how much charge is flowing, get an estimate when it will be done. I like that way better and I'm not seeing how the light on is useful.
Considering you would never unplug (or touch) someone else's car, this is a moot point. You just have to wait until they leave.
Plus isnt the plug locked when inserted?
If you want to tell at a SC to determine the fastest pair, then something on the SC would suffice to show you when they are done.
Paul & Rlang,
I always leave a note on my dashboard when SuperCharging with my cell number, and while I recognize that many people don't, this info (the ability for someone to see if my car has completed charging) plus my contact info might help them.
And I know that several of the SCs here in Texas are connected to a Collins Bakery - there would be nothing to keep someone from coming in and asking who's got the Tesla in stall 2A...
Of course, I always make it a point to try to return to the charging station as soon as the iPhone app says it's complete if I know the station to be busy.
Adam
I get it for work place charger or communal charger where you know the other users, but what if you just started charging, and someone unplugs you and now you're stranded. That would be like removing the nozzle at a gas station. Since you can't tell when someone is done, and you don't know how far they need to go, how can you unplug them? You wouldn't want them to do it to you.It is actually very common and totally acceptable to unplug someone else's car that has finished charging, especially in environments where people generally know each other (like a parking lot or parking deck at an office building). It is considered bad etiquette to lock the EVSE to your car in those sort of places (not to be confused with truly public charging stations like chargepoint or blink located in say a grocery store parking lot or something like that).
For a Tesla, only the J1772 adapter itself locks onto the car. The EVSE can be disconnected at any time simply by unplugging it from the adapter.
Not talking SC Here. Work plugs are usually designed to allow one plug to serve two spots and the unwritten rule is if car is not charging it's ok to unplug and charge yours. Conversely if I leave then I plug the car in that's waiting.Considering you would never unplug (or touch) someone else's car, this is a moot point. You just have to wait until they leave.
Plus isnt the plug locked when inserted?
If you want to tell at a SC to determine the fastest pair, then something on the SC would suffice to show you when they are done.