When I bought factory-supplied dual chargers plus HPWC the cost was $1500 + $1200 = $2700. Now the cost for same capability + charging is $2000 (installed) + $750 = $2750. By my reckoning, not bad for two years delta. In the intervening time, there was probably a worst case time to buy (retrofit 2nd charger at $3600 + $1200 HPWC = $4800), e.g., a few days ago...
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Cyclone
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Just a note though that the HPWC in the US has been at $750 for a couple months now. But still, except for late 2014 and the first two months of 2015, the above holds true.
mrElbe
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Also note that items previously part of the factory order had a 4 year warranty and items bought from the Accessories store have a 1 year warranty.
EU cars with single charger can only get 16A out of a 7.6kW 32A single phase type2 outlet, using a type2 cable.
Charging at 32A single phase blue sockets with the UMC will work with a single charger, due to special wiring in the UMC. But not 32A single phase type2 outlets using a standard type2 cable.
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Fascinating info thank you. I do have a UMC actually but have never continuity checked it to see if the Live on the blue commando is bridged to L1/2/3 into the UMC itself.
UK cars were originally expected to be delivered with the UMC as standard but about 2 months before first deliveries Tesla switched their plans and decided to include a Type 2 cable instead and not offer the UMC.
This is because the UK has a government grant scheme where an EV owner can get a 32A Type 2 charge point installed at their home completely free (including installation, cabling, and the unit itself) so of course this is a very popular option here. Nobody is installing commando sockets for EV charging in the UK.
Tesla initially went through a process where they worked with one of the grant-eligible charge point suppliers to develop a "tesla-specific" charge point (with the phases bridged inside the charge point) but shortly after the first few of these were installed they backtracked and removed them, and evidently made the decision to build initial UK cars with dual chargers.
TM staff are now adamant that new UK RHD Model S's are not going to be built with dual chargers from the factory.
I've had my P85 for over two years and over 50K miles, and have used only a 14-50 outlet for extended periods twice.
Except for rare cases, the charging rate with a single charger and a 14-50 outlet should be fast enough. I can recall only one time when I really needed the faster charging rate of the HPWC and dual chargers - when I did quite a bit of driving during the day - and then went on a road trip in the evening.
While the HPWC looks cool, from a practical standpoint, based on my experience, it's probably not worth spending an extra $3500 to get the dual chargers and HPWC. A second UMC for use in the garage (so that there's always a UMC in the car for an emergency) is probably what most owners need.
And if the option is still available from the local Service Center - then owners can still get the extra charging - if they really want to get it.
Except for rare cases, the charging rate with a single charger and a 14-50 outlet should be fast enough. I can recall only one time when I really needed the faster charging rate of the HPWC and dual chargers - when I did quite a bit of driving during the day - and then went on a road trip in the evening.
While the HPWC looks cool, from a practical standpoint, based on my experience, it's probably not worth spending an extra $3500 to get the dual chargers and HPWC. A second UMC for use in the garage (so that there's always a UMC in the car for an emergency) is probably what most owners need.
And if the option is still available from the local Service Center - then owners can still get the extra charging - if they really want to get it.
Most people who have opted for dual chargers didn't do so because they routinely needed faster charging at home. They did so to take advantage of high amp level 2 charging (HPWC or Clipper Creek high amp J1772) when away from home.
The issue with it only being available at the service center "if they really want it" is most buyers won't know it's available if it's not listed among the options when they order their car. You don't think it's necessary-- fine, that's why it's always been optional rather than standard. But at least Tesla should keep it as an option and not something hidden on an accessories page that most buyers will never see.
breser
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Doesn't seem that hidden to me, there's an accessories link on the Model S page. They did get rid of a bunch of clutter on their main page and the drop down menus they had on the header. There's good reason to get rid of the drop down menus because they're hard to use on touch devices. However, what I do think they should do is add a nice big prominent accessories link in the dashboard since they've got a lot of unused space under the car once it's delivered.
Also LED running lights, Lane Assist, and Speed Limit Display are now standard. Interesting.
I also think the Accessories link is hard to find. It should be a main site navigation item at the top of every page.
I also think the Accessories link is hard to find. It should be a main site navigation item at the top of every page.
jgs
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They've been listed for a while, definitely prior to the most recent update. I do agree that it appears to make them fairly high-stakes items to deliver.
Yeah, it's messed up. Why is it under the Model S section? The shop also has stuff for Roadster owners and brand enthusiasts who don't necessarily own Tesla cars.
And even some Model X apparel! Its hard to find cause I configure a Model S P85D daily and never seen it. Must not press order.
hingisfan
hingisfan_Mark_V
Weird....the CDN site doesnt have the "Options" text section, and the tech pkg is presented differently. Also, no text regarding AP updates in the tech pkg section.
Insane
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I called TESLA and dual charger is an after market product that can be purchased & installed at the service center. Its $ 500 more in cost.
Some reasons why I chose dual charger and HPWC - in a word, flexibility:
- faster charging on the road if available
- HPWC is only $150 more than the extra charging cable, garage wiring was only $100 more for 100A vs 50A
- fast charging at home to fit in cheapest rate window at night
- fast charging at home if needing to charge mid-day
- faster charging on the road if available
- HPWC is only $150 more than the extra charging cable, garage wiring was only $100 more for 100A vs 50A
- fast charging at home to fit in cheapest rate window at night
- fast charging at home if needing to charge mid-day
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