Sean.
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Only 3 cabs visible in your photo, unless there was a fourth behind?No, but it looks big enough to have 16. I remember seeing the Trafford Centre ones being built and that’s a similar number.
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Only 3 cabs visible in your photo, unless there was a fourth behind?No, but it looks big enough to have 16. I remember seeing the Trafford Centre ones being built and that’s a similar number.
I had another look this morning before I left and there were 4 cabinets and although I couldn't see everything due to a parked van, there looked to be 16 sets of wires poking out of the ground.Only 3 cabs visible in your photo, unless there was a fourth behind?
I'm genuinely wondering and don't know the answer because I've not tried yet (but could if needs be), so please no hate, but maybe the V4 cable length being a bit longer means Teslas can park wrong way in, and still charge, like a car with a front-right corner charge port reversed in; then there won't be blocked ports on V4.Of course it matters if It reduces the number of available stalls! I can't see you being very relaxed about it if you end up in a queue when you can see there are unused stalls that are only unavailable because someone didn't understand the charger/space arrangement.
Yep. Post 6636 above.I'm genuinely wondering and don't know the answer because I've not tried yet (but could if needs be), so please no hate, but maybe the V4 cable length being a bit longer means Teslas can park wrong way in, and still charge, like a car with a front-right corner charge port reversed in; then there won't be blocked ports on V4.
Anyone tried?
Yeah. The MFG sites and kit seem like the real deal, good numbers of taps at petrol station locations. BP Pulse still a massive con to this day.Like with like though…
- a ton of the Osprey network is still at 75 kW charge points. There aren’t that many Kempower 150 & 300 kW enabled sites.
- Instavolt outside of the pairs of rubbish 200A- limited BYD twins at McD and Costa have again a handful of ultrafast hubs > 6 charge points
MFG look good, nice charge points those with Alpitronic HYCs in play. Not the cheapest though.
Gridserve are on a massive push, I reckon they are trying to be the biggest in UK. Also just opened 8 in Lincoln and with these double tie up sites with Tesla I think they are being very clever and Tesla are dropping the ball.
I don’t get it, they have 545 sites across Europe - they did what they set out to do?If Tesla is 'dropping the ball', I don't know how you would describe this lot, note the date ...
I don’t get it, they have 545 sites across Europe - they did what they set out to do?
Never say never indeed. Upgrade time…There are 8 existing and based on that X post there are only 5 new bases so that makes 13.
As far as I know Tesla have never upgraded a single supercharger site so if they do replace the existing V2 with V4 this will be a first. Stoke has had V4 added with out upgrading the existing chargers.
Never say never but they may just be putting in the cabinets with a view to future upgrades rather than a plan to replace the stalls now?
What I think we don't know is if V2 can even be upgraded to V4 without replacing the underground cables which would make it a bigger job.
Well yes they were 2 years late on their original plan and Tesla do have more sites/stalls. I’ll give you that. It the wrong place for this discussion though.What's nearly half a decade between friends .
The game has changed. Any they open to the public will soon need a card reader or break the new rules so Tesla will be forced to do upgrades.
I imagine that would be the least popular opening up the the public so far by a mile given its popularity at busy times and lack of nearby alternatives
Not to my Fiat500e it wouldn't with its 85kw max charge rateWill V4 make a tangible difference to charge / "dwell" times? (IDK)
Not to my Fiat500e it wouldn't with its 85kw max charge rate
OK fair enough if you are going to get technical on meCompared to a V2 site, it should do. So if you were sitting there drawing your 85kW max, on V2 you would be reducing whoever is on the adjacent stall down to 35kW. Or conversely, if a Tesla got there first you would only get 35kW, well below your capability even if tapered down from the max.
And in an all-V4 scenario, a few slower cars in the mix probably reduces the chance of site limits being hit (though I don't know how often that occurs in practice), thus improving dwell times for the faster cars - though obviously they would be better off if the slow cars weren't there at all!
To a lesser degree there is also the 800V architecture cars charging on a 400V DC supply - so the fastest charging 800V cars, the E-GMP family, Taycans / e-tron GT's, Xpeng (in `Europe') etc will have a cap applied based on what their on-board 400/800V conversion circuitry is capable of.Compared to a V2 site, it should do. So if you were sitting there drawing your 85kW max, on V2 you would be reducing whoever is on the adjacent stall down to 35kW. Or conversely, if a Tesla got there first you would only get 35kW, well below your capability even if tapered down from the max.
And in an all-V4 scenario, a few slower cars in the mix probably reduces the chance of site limits being hit (though I don't know how often that occurs in practice), thus improving dwell times for the faster cars - though obviously they would be better off if the slow cars weren't there at all!
obviously they would be better off if the slow cars weren't there at all!
I imagine that would be the least popular opening up the the public so far by a mile given its popularity at busy times and lack of nearby alternatives.