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The easy answer to this is no, it isn't possible.
Even if it was possible, and we use that assumption...
TESLA believes in cars built from the ground up as an EV. They learned from the roadster that attempting to use an ICE platform causes more headaches than it is worth.
I don't see this happening for many more reasons than the ones listed above, but those are the two that are first on the list!
There are plenty of people who do EV conversions on their cars. Batteries, controllers, and motors are available for the purpose. You won't get Tesla level performance but you will get an EV. Google it.
Hi NEWDL, Hi Doug_G,
And thanks for your comments.
I appreciate that TESLA is at this stage focused on developing their own platforms, and I know that there are others out there who sell EV conversion kits at lower level performance standards - I would still argue the case of an eventual battery kit development that could be used to replace the ICE in that, say the classic car inherited from dad, the barn find project you work so hard to restore, that '67 Camaro you've been saving all your life to buy... emerging markets not able to afford mid-high end car prices...
I haven't done any sort of market analysis, but wondered if it could be worth it...
Kind regards
You run the risk of someone screwing up the install and something like a fire happening with a Tesla battery pack too. Even though Tesla's part wasn't the problem in this example, they'd still get the blame in certain circles.
At the right price, it is worth it to the many custom ev shops filling that niche. Go to diyelectriccar.com and you will find many in that space. As others have said, Tesla is focused on their own fully integrated cars, not kits. Tesla did a kit, if you want to call it that for Toyota, in the form of the RAV4EV. They do multi million dollar consulting jobs like that but not individual cars. I think AC Propulsion is in that space.
EDIT. In fact, AC Propulsion did some early prototype work for the Tesla Roadster.
High Performance Electric Vehicles also puts a kit in a Wheego and I think there are several others in Europe that do similar work.
Hi Ampster,
To be honest I don't know what to think... I somehow agree that it is not for the current TESLA Motors to do conversions, but without having done any numbers, I am not so sure as to the size of the niche market such conversions would represent, in order to know if it could merit focused attention by TESLA...
I also think we have significantly different perspectives... when I think conversions I'm thinking about two types of cars or markets: classic cars and emerging economies, whilst I think you think "only" about North America and other developed economies... please correct me if I'm wrong.
For classics I admit it is very niche worldwide, and I would guess demand would be really low as I expect people would want to stick to their gasoline drinking engines. But I do see high potential for emerging markets (China, India, Brasil...) in which the majority of people cannot afford Model S, nor will they able to afford GenIII. They could however go for a conversion of their existing cars if technically and economically feasible, contributing to the change towards electrification, and not feeling left out.
As to whether this would mean a shift in company direction, or a change in Elon's management style... I don't know, what I don't think so... to me it could simply mean a new division within the company dealing with such conversions (like I would also envisage a Recreational and Utilities Division...), and I think conversions would indeed significantly scale up for years to come until EVs become mature and affordable to the mass public... but I admit I'm only guessing...
Regards
I'd say there's less than zero chance of Tesla getting into the conversion business.
Elons stated goals are to accelerate the switch to EVs.
They can best do that by delivering a mass market lower cost vehicle, that's coming in Gen3
Conversions are notoriously labor intensive and one of a kind, the exact opposite of the desired outcome.
There are plenty of conversion shops around to handle the few people willing to pay for a conversion
(Which will likely cost more than the Gen3 vehicle)
All | Model | 2012 |
1 | Toyota Corolla | 1,097,132 |
2 | Ford Focus | 1,036,683 |
3 | Hyundai Elantra | 829,192 |
4 | Toyota Camry | 797,466 |
5 | Ford F-Series | 785,028 |
6 | Chevrolet Cruze | 784,014 |
7 | VW Passat/Magotan | 782,694 |
8 | Nissan Tiida/Versa/Sunny | 774,846 |
9 | VW Golf | 750,466 |
10 | Ford Fiesta | 742,037 |
Seems someone forgot to take their medicine this morning... you should really take it easy, after all, we are only exchanging ideas here, and there's no need to get all excited
I don't wish it or desire it, I make my point like you make yours (well, no, not really like you...)
Regards
As you said in your original post everything is possible. However, based on the opinions expressed here your idea got no traction in this forum. I have a lot of respect for the opinions of the experienced people here. You admit that you have no experience but persist in your argument. Prove them wrong, write a letter to Elon Musk and tell him about your vision.Likewise.
I do listen/read and comprehend very well, I just don't necessarily agree with what you say nor appreciate how you say it.
That said, I respect your opinion "regardless what you believe or desire".
Regards.