JusRelax
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Lol, yes, this is a version of FSD that Elon mentioned would be 'mind-blowing'. As an optimist, I do have to admit that Elon's mind seems to be blown more often than most people.
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Lol, yes, this is a version of FSD that Elon mentioned would be 'mind-blowing'. As an optimist, I do have to admit that Elon's mind seems to be blown more often than most people.
That probably means to the employee group next week, and then getting to the "golden few" the week after. I agree that I wouldn't expect any normal customers to get it for at least two weeks, and that assumes that the initial waves don't report any issues that need remediation.
Excellent. It will be very interesting to see the pace of progress between 12.3 and 12.4. This is important for the 8/8 event as it gives context to how ready FSD will be for RT production starting late next year.
This is unfortunately what we need. In my opinion, we have a human mod that want's...no implores for civil discourse.
But currently we have bot's and dare I say bot/trolls here that use every technical trick to appear as human....when in fact "they" are just here to muddy the waters.
Using a forum tool to quickly disagree has been deemed off limits.
This plays right into the hands of those that want the appearance of dialogue...but are not honest in their intent.
So we have a forum which is trending towards more negativity and more noise.
Hence, why valuable posters are leaving or have left.
Elon needs to drive on drives where the 1/10,000 disengagements occurLol, yes, this is a version of FSD that Elon mentioned would be 'mind-blowing'. As an optimist, I do have to admit that Elon's mind seems to be blown more often than most people.
every week, some different route. Straight line from home to factory in TX flatlands not doing it
I too have sections of drives where mind is totally blown. Family(passengers), don't even know it's FSD ... Touring test
People get used to new things quickly. Dishwasher, washing machine, WiFi, FSD, Zoom, Uber, DoorDash, microwave, TV remote, etc.Lol, yes, this is a version of FSD that Elon mentioned would be 'mind-blowing'. As an optimist, I do have to admit that Elon's mind seems to be blown more often than most people.
My car on 12.3.6 has driven me 99%+ for the past 5 weeks. I got used to it now too.
The car can drive by itself now and will only get better.
FSD was a sci-fi not too long ago. The best thing, it is not going anywhere, it will remain and get better.
It is so easy to complain, Elon bad, Elon mind blown too often. Meanwhile, Tesla has grown to unimaginable size now. Starships and rocket engines are built like 99% of Earth countries can't even dream of.
We have 5,601 Starlinks at Elon's disposal as of today map
My mind is constantly blowing because I care to understand what is happening. If your's does not as often, I only feel sorry for all that feel that way.
UkNorthampton
TSLA - 12+ startups in 1
Without getting political, UK not ideal time to buy big items. Lots of uncertainty.
I'm not aware of reporting on UK inventory. Autotrader would give a clue to those who have followed trends.
Rest of Europe? I don't know. Much of the new market is company cars and different in every country. Eg Belgium, nearly all EVs due to tax @NicoV has reported on reasons. Germany killed EV subsidies. France linking production carbon to tax (China targetted), lots of schemes. Low emission zones and subsidies but constantly changing.
No idea if car prices rose a lot in UK, I presume they did, but especially with German brands, pricing is opaque. You know you were ripped off, just not by how much.
Just clicked through on a 24% discounted Audi A5. Loads of offers from various dealers. Includes £8000 Audi discount if you buy through PCP (similar to USA lease with final balloon payment to buy, or just return if value below final payment). 6.9 % APR interest rate, 18 to 49 months. 5% deposit. Otherwise, £2000 discount.
Of course, if you know UK law, you take the £8000 and just cancel within 14 days.
jkirkwood001
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I didn't talk about Tesla's growth. I quoted the facts about TSLA's share price compared to the market. I admit SP is an indirect indicator on the health and perception of the company. But maybe there's another thread for Tesla production than this investors thread.
JusRelax
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Maybe I should have mentioned that I am an optimist like Elon.
I embrace change and the possibility of a brighter future and truly feel so fortunate to be alive at a time to be able to witness all of the amazing tech that Elon Musk-led companies are working on. Reusable rockets, Rocket-catching chopsticks, Full Self Driving, Robotaxis, Housebots, Neuralink and all of the possibilities that go along with it - It all fascinates me.
It's really crazy to try to imagine what society might be like 20-30 years from now. I'm in my 40s, so I better be alive to witness it!
Still don't understand how they are putting out new FSD releases, but not for all cars... anything on 2024.8.x isn't getting updated yet.
I am among those and would like to experience FSD 12.x on my regular routes, to better understand Tesla's progress.
I am among those and would like to experience FSD 12.x on my regular routes, to better understand Tesla's progress.
insaneoctane
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Agree. I know Elon has been guilty of both hyperbole and stating FSD will blow your mind before. I'm less interested in how 12.4 performs its tasks, rather I'm excited that it might be measurably better than 12.3. As most know, 12.x was a new approach and a step change of progress, therefore, being able to show measurable progress so soon would be a strong indication that Tesla has the correct approach to iterate this time.
Doggydogworld
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Yeah, very informative video. Best closeups of the castings I've seen, with all their sophisticated webbing and other design features. He points out several minor "time to market" kludges which I figure Tesla will fix over time. I wish he'd gone into the weight savings more, I've read a few auto engineers who claim castings are simpler but typically heavier.
I was surprised to hear him say the stainless panels provide no structural support at all. You'd think they'd at least act as shear panels. We've long known "exoskeleton" was just marketing BS, but this apparently isn't even unibody. Just body on frame, albeit a very extensive and highly engineered frame.
At 6:00 they show the Y front end with replaceable "crush cans" for low speed crashes vs. the CT which has a "corrugated" section in the casting itself. Sounds like even a low speed impact could total the vehicle, but maybe I missed something.
who cares if it was planned six months ago. Why is she always selling? Further, why does she deserve tens and hundreds of millions to do nothing but sit and eat?
Agreed. It's the first version update after V12 released publicly. It's exciting to see what has improved, what has regressed, etc. It will give us a picture into what will come.
8/8 is 3 months away. With the way Tesla is sending out updates, we might be 12.6 by then.
Your reply is exactly what he's pointing to. If you aren't a 110% uber bull with rose colored glasses you are labeled a troll and run out with crazy conspiracy theories of FUD, etc. It's just the opposite of TSLAQ and the uber bulls don't even see their behavior is just the other side of the crazy coin.
I doubled my investment bc Elon kept pumping 'FSD by year-end' and he said at the shareholder meeting it 'was the best time to be a shareholder'. Days later he and Kimbal starting selling billions and the stock is down by half ever since.
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