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A Mexican factory opens up a whole new market as well. The model 2 would probably do well in many Latin American markets. But they will have to get serious about building out the supercharger network in at least Mexico to start with. Right now it’s very patchy…at best.
FWIW, I don't know, I'm guessing, but the road trip culture is maybe not as great in Sudamerica than America. Therefore, Superchargers may be less critical to success.

That's not me, as in 2019 I turned my Canadian Model 3 around at Monterrey instead of continuing West to Baja. Would have been fun (if it was safe).

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Per Elon, FSD is complete. So clearly the bar has been raised much higher than his comments from 2019 would suggest. He appears to be back-peddling in that quote as there were plenty of hints he was highly speculating with his word choices - "some chance", "doesn't mean", "above zero chance", "maybe"...

Today, IMO, feature complete means that it could be used as a robotaxi, assuming the proper system and safeguards were added on. That's what "a few months out" means now. (Except parking may still be a problem in the future, and it will always be until everyone is autonomous!)

I do wonder if we'll be able to teach it to park special in our garage with one-button learning, and as simple as a memory preset on the radio. It's just another path to calculate, but that may need a front camera or sonar. I don't think this is required though (Edit: for FSD complete) but do believe it's possible.

"Feature Complete" is an oft-used software engineering term (I believe that's where it was coined), for a post-Alpha build, that has all planned features implemented, but that doesn't mean they work well, or even at all. From Wikipedia:

Feature-complete​

A feature-complete (FC) version of a piece of software has all of its planned or primary features implemented but is not yet final due to bugs, performance or stability issues.[6] This occurs at the end of alpha testing in development.

Usually, feature-complete software still has to undergo beta testing and bug fixing, as well as performance or stability enhancement before it can go to release candidate, and finally gold status.

So that doesn't necessarily mean FSD is close to done. From FC to Release Candidate, it can take.. well, as much time as it needs.

This is a good thing in that it means they are not still adding new features, so the scope of what needs to be de-bugged and tuned has stopped growing. It also means they believe they have identified all the things needed to make FSD ultimately work... but again, making them work correctly is a separate thing, and the job ahead.
 
My best guess is Lucid collapses, and Rivian gets bought, but certainly nether of them is a threat to Tesla :D.
I am not worried about them being a threat to Tesla. I am worried about them not being a threat to legacy ICE car makers, who become comfortable doing only hybrids. I hope Tesla gives some friendly advice on how to become profitable.
 
I am not worried about them being a threat to Tesla. I am worried about them not being a threat to legacy ICE car makers, who become comfortable doing only hybrids. I hope Tesla gives some friendly advice on how to become profitable.
My dream scenario is that Amazon, Saudis and other funds continue to pour money into Rivian, and that Rivian delivers on their electric vans in meaningful numbers. Tesla is not there yet and it's a very useful model.
Then we'll have a great electric car and less money for some great polluters: win-win for the mission.
 
I am not worried about them being a threat to Tesla. I am worried about them not being a threat to legacy ICE car makers, who become comfortable doing only hybrids. I hope Tesla gives some friendly advice on how to become profitable.

I wouldn't worry about this too much. People are kinda smart, at least subconsciously, and are bound to realize their ICE with tiny battery still has them buying fuel, doing oil changes, and other such foolishness while their neighbors (on both sides) with EVs aren't.
 
FWIW, I don't know, I'm guessing, but the road trip culture is maybe not as great in Sudamerica than America. Therefore, Superchargers may be less critical to success.

That's not me, as in 2019 I turned my Canadian Model 3 around at Monterrey instead of continuing West to Baja. Would have been fun (if it was safe).

Paging @unk45
As everywhere else I have been, South America has huge variation between driving habits. There is a significant minority everywhere i have been that pursues long road trips. I have been surprised how common that is, despite hearing from allegedly informed people that such behavior does not happen.
Among people who are likely to be typical Tesla drivers, excluding the upcoming smaller car, I think there is a more likely long road trip behavior than is typical for less affluent people. OTOH, the caseiro (houseman) of my mother-in-law rgularly, three times a year drives from Rio de Janeiro to Salvador, Bahia and back again, roughly 2000 miles Road trip. I offer that vignette only to illustrate what really is need in nearly every country Tesla enters.

That is, simply, provide for road trips between all major cities that are commonly connected by road. Obviously, long thin countries, like Chile, are easy to cover adequately. Smaller countries with highly concentrated populations, like Equador, are also easy to cover. Huge countries with highly diverse large population centers, like Brazil (roughly the size of the 48 US States, are far more complex to cover. Similar logic holds in other places, like Turkey and many others, with Greece one of the more difficult because of all those islands.

Tesla has been quite adept in managing such challenges. It's really not to difficult. Beginning with decent coverage in major cities with large likely buyers, probably about fen or so in Brazil, for example, while adding coverage every 150km or so between those cities on major routes. That has been the Tesla pattern nearly everywhere, including perhaps the most challenging of all, China, where they even put Supercharger on Mount Everest Base Camp. That last one displays a Tesla specialty, putting Superchargers where there si a highly valued 'tripping tourist market' that generates popular interest. Of course they've not yet done the NA equivalent, lower 48 to Anchorage.

As with many such cases around the world Tesla can do the job without question. Deciding how to administer and protect locations is a major issue that is growing. That has historically been managed by placing Superchargers where trippers would stop anyway, with security and services already in place.

Probably more information than you asked or expected. FWIW, as a onetime driver from Paris to Tehran, and 2015 San Francisco-Atlanta in an S70, not to mention many others, I am acutely aware of the importance of infrastructure everywhere Tesla goes, even if very few people actually go there. It's rather like buying any other vehicle because you'll need its features once or twice a year, maybe.
 
I get such a kick out of people basically saying, "don't trust Elon when he says..."

When EM KNOWS something is possible he gets it done.
I suppose talking about a timeline for doing the previously impossible can/will slip a bit.

I prefer to look at the results of his predictions. (to be clear, I am talking about the physical sciences.....not his social sciences stuff)
His success rate is ....um.....impressive.

The success of his detractors...the ones we all know...not so much.

GoJo.... Toilet boy.... Bob Lutz....Chanos.
They all got tons of airtime explaining how/why Tesla was doomed.

If we lived in a fair and just world, they would get equal air time to explain exactly how wrong they were/are.
 
My dream scenario is that Amazon, Saudis and other funds continue to pour money into Rivian, and that Rivian delivers on their electric vans in meaningful numbers. Tesla is not there yet and it's a very useful model.
Then we'll have a great electric car and less money for some great polluters: win-win for the mission.
Could please elucidate on this - "Tesla is not there yet and it's a very useful model." Thanks
 
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I paid $10K for FSD because I'm interested in the technology and I want to understand my Tesla investment better. I've been saying for quite a long time that for anyone who doesn't have those motivations, it's not worth it.

I've loved using FSD on the Interstate on long road trips, but that's still not worth paying 10K.

For most people, it's still not worth $10K (or $12K) yet, but I can finally say with V12 I really love using it on city streets as well.

I couldn't honestly say I loved city streets with V11. To me, it was still just a fun science experiment.

But V12 is wonderful!
 
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I get such a kick out of people basically saying, "don't trust Elon when he says..."

When EM KNOWS something is possible he gets it done.
I suppose talking about a timeline for doing the previously impossible can/will slip a bit.

I prefer to look at the results of his predictions. (to be clear, I am talking about the physical sciences.....not his social sciences stuff)
His success rate is ....um.....impressive.

The success of his detractors...the ones we all know...not so much.

GoJo.... Toilet boy.... Bob Lutz....Chanos.
They all got tons of airtime explaining how/why Tesla was doomed.

If we lived in a fair and just world, they would get equal air time to explain exactly how wrong they were/are.
Even some supposedly smart and savvy technologists like Bill Gates have been terribly wrong about Elon.
 
That's an odd chart, all the lines are the same color. But I believe you, and it makes sense. I find it odd that nuclear can't be shutdown - it runs a steam turbine, so just vent the steam, no? And solar is fine, just unplug it. So it seems like power management in general is lacking on the larger scale. What an opportunity for Tesla, like you say!

The chart colors are the same colour because I was too lazy to properly configure the chart. You can configure your own on Explore — Elia Open Data Portal
It’s actually very nice that Elia (the Belgian grid operator) exposes all kinds of data for free to the public. I wrote my own smart charging software using those predictions.
I’m not a nuclear power plant specialist, so I can’t explain why it’s not possible to switch off nuclear power plants, but apparently it is (either for technical or economical reasons).
The cheapest way to take advantage of such a situation is demand steering, but it is still a relatively unknown area for EV owners. If you have a Tesla it’s just some software, even if you have a dumb home charger. The not so cheap way is using batteries, and for the moment on a home scale it’s hard to justify economically. But on a grid scale we’re installing a lot of batteries in the near future.
 
I believe he brings alot of the criticism on himself. I not only wish he had never bought the bird, I wish he would have deleted his account three years ago. Not really the right place to discuss this though.
Though I agree Elon purposefully invites criticism (why I said "Truth"), I think he does it for highly compelling reasons - to challenge convention, to seek truth, to preserve freedom of speech just to name a few things.

As far as the Twitter purchase: We live in a world where data is the new gold. No company on Earth has as much real human language data to train LLMs, Grok specifically. This will not only turn Twitter into a $T company within single digit years, but it will also catalyze Tesla, Space X, & Neuralink in ways we truly cannot imagine.
 
Want to increase the SP, and change the narrative? Introduce a product that will create excitement and have nice thick margins. Oh, like a new Model 3 Performance variant. Active Suspension? There will be a waiting list for this car, there goes the "EVs not selling" mantra....................................................................................I question what is the future of Model S, without an expensive new gen.