powertoold
Active Member
It's a big edge case that needs to be addressed. If the passenger just happens to tug the steering wheel, then the car goes back to normal manual mode and put the car into risk.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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It's a big edge case that needs to be addressed. If the passenger just happens to tug the steering wheel, then the car goes back to normal manual mode and put the car into risk.
Elon: "If you need a geofenced area you don't have self-driving!"
They should have skipped this whole Elon Q & A.. Just let us see some FSD Live.
"we didn't hear much today about are HD maps and if they are useful for you"
Really? What program have YOU been watching? They spent like 5+ minutes on that.
Really? What program have YOU been watching? They spent like 5+ minutes on that.
Drumheller
Active Member
The steering wheel input can be ignored by the car.
humbaba
sleeping until $7000
It isn't an edge case, its an implementation detail. It will be important when Tesla ride sharing actually exists. Even with Elon they have 12+ months.
I'm not sure it can. Depends on how they implemented safety of override.
powertoold
Active Member
True, but Elon said you can still take over the car if you tug the wheel.
SuperDragon
Member
Today that's defiantly the case, but as FSD evolves it will become more discriminating.
Drumheller
Active Member
I think much of the transition period will be confusing due to regulations and gradual changes. Probably in the beginning, you'll be able to pull the steering wheel and it will take over. Then there will be a period of older cars having useless steering wheels that do nothing.
Personally, I enjoy spirited driving. I want to keep a car that I can manually drive. I hope that's not fully outlawed. Or selfishly, not in my lifetime.
On another note, perhaps Tesla pick-up trucks will be added to the network that can be rented so people without trucks can use them for moving and such when needed.
I love how we're 3 hours into this thing and we don't know exactly what they're going to demo for the investors there. I would have expected a video to begin this whole thing showing what to expect.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
“Feature complete FSD = Level 5” by end of this year, was Musk’s response to UBS.
Did I hear that correctly?
Did I hear that correctly?
tinm
2020 Model S LR+ Owner
Just a design comment on the subtle communication failures going on in real time during this event: note the constant fail of next audience member asking a question not waiting for the microphone, but Elon can hear from the stage, so he just answers. But often, Elon, blinded by the stage lights, can't see into the blackness of the audience so doesn't know where the question is coming from.
Fails:
Fixes:
Fails:
- Webcast audience doesn't hear the question.
- Webcast audience trying to figure out what the question while Elon's already answering it.
- Tesla staffer runs around the room handing the mic to the questioner halfway into question. Some repeat, some just keep talking.
- Webcast audience gets signal loss.
Fixes:
- Attach a bright LED to the Mic, that can be seen from the stage.
- Teach the audience to wait until they have a mic before asking the question.
- Add one or two more staffers with microphones with different color LEDs. Reduce time to mic reaching questioner.
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I really hope Tesla ramps up production. If Elon is anywhere close to his self driving timeline then they won't bother selling to us until they have fulfilled all robo taxi capacity.
Addressing the issue of Uber just buying Teslas. Yes, others are asking the same questions as I had. I agree with the question for sure. Why would they sell me an SR when they could pocket it for Tesla Inc use?
Addressing the issue of Uber just buying Teslas. Yes, others are asking the same questions as I had. I agree with the question for sure. Why would they sell me an SR when they could pocket it for Tesla Inc use?
No he said the cost to hire a robotaxi would be $2-3/mile. But the robotaki operator is only paying $0.18/mile. ($0.36 if you cant that only half of the miles are productive.)
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