Could be an option play. Call premiums are so cheap in a bear market that we see many of these BS announcements popping up all ends up being a lie. Last one was Saudi buying Lucid.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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TYT apparently did not read Tesla's "In Response to False Allegations" before jumping to conclusions.
They also did not explain why Elon objects to the term "recall" for over-the-air software updates.
Even their headline contains an untruth.
Yet in the comment section for this video, their loyal viewers are screaming about evil Elon Musk.
They also did not explain why Elon objects to the term "recall" for over-the-air software updates.
Even their headline contains an untruth.
Yet in the comment section for this video, their loyal viewers are screaming about evil Elon Musk.
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Intraday high?? Yesterday, 4:03 AM - it hit $217.82... But wasn't it over $400 a year ago??
What am I missing??
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
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TrendTrader007
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Here is my Friday evening present to all interested in TA:
Courtesy @Papafox who has consistently pointed out to inverse Head & shoulders pattern in his delightful daily charts
This is an art, not science so prone to frequent errors of misinterpretation so not to be taken seriously but merely as a Technical hypothesis
Courtesy @Papafox who has consistently pointed out to inverse Head & shoulders pattern in his delightful daily charts
This is an art, not science so prone to frequent errors of misinterpretation so not to be taken seriously but merely as a Technical hypothesis
So this just means that the ETF goes up or down more on a percentage basis than the stock, daily. But in the long run, the ETF should go in the same direction as the stock, but in a more leveraged manner. So if the stock goes up long run, then the ETF should also go up more long run. Is the downside just the daily volatility?
TrendTrader007
Active Member
so those interested in TSLL, it is not a bad product although it is likely to underperform severely in a bear market and underperform in sideways market.
it is a reasonably 150% leveraged product with advantages similar to TQQQ except TQQQ is 3X qqq whereas TSLL 1.5X TSLA on a daily basis
due to daily reset over long periods of time actual performance may diverge from TSLA significantly
as for me, i prefer straight margin
now in straight margin, if wrong i can lose it all and even go negative and deal with margin calls etc
TSLL do not have to worry about margin call
currently 176% margined on TSLA- very risky if it goes against me
did successfully increase my TSLA position yesterday and earlier today just before TSLA took off, so i got super lucky
made very short term trades, maybe lasting 10 minutes tops so i did not risk losing my TSLA position overall and by sheer chance i was able to increase my share count. whew! dodged a bullet
in my opinion, most individuals should stay away from margin and call options- too easy to lose it all
have been trading TSLA on margin since January 2014 and man, what a ride it has been
no need to go into details of my travails and misadventures as a leveraged trader- why tempt fate
all is well that ends well
none of this is any kind of promotion or any kind of investment advice, just my personal opinion as an individual trader/investor
(someday, once i hit the big B, might decide to write a book, not for money or fame but just to document the extreme thrill ride : otherwise RIP)
it is a reasonably 150% leveraged product with advantages similar to TQQQ except TQQQ is 3X qqq whereas TSLL 1.5X TSLA on a daily basis
due to daily reset over long periods of time actual performance may diverge from TSLA significantly
as for me, i prefer straight margin
now in straight margin, if wrong i can lose it all and even go negative and deal with margin calls etc
TSLL do not have to worry about margin call
currently 176% margined on TSLA- very risky if it goes against me
did successfully increase my TSLA position yesterday and earlier today just before TSLA took off, so i got super lucky
made very short term trades, maybe lasting 10 minutes tops so i did not risk losing my TSLA position overall and by sheer chance i was able to increase my share count. whew! dodged a bullet
in my opinion, most individuals should stay away from margin and call options- too easy to lose it all
have been trading TSLA on margin since January 2014 and man, what a ride it has been
no need to go into details of my travails and misadventures as a leveraged trader- why tempt fate
all is well that ends well
none of this is any kind of promotion or any kind of investment advice, just my personal opinion as an individual trader/investor
(someday, once i hit the big B, might decide to write a book, not for money or fame but just to document the extreme thrill ride : otherwise RIP)
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My underderstanding of TSLL is that the downside (even if TSLA is up every day) is that it doesn't account for what happens overnight. You don't get the overnight gap-ups.
Extreme example: If TSLA were up 1 % every night and down .5% every day, TSLA longs are up .5% every 24 hours, while TSLL longs are down .75% every calendar day.
Extreme example: If TSLA were up 1 % every night and down .5% every day, TSLA longs are up .5% every 24 hours, while TSLL longs are down .75% every calendar day.
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Used to listen to them. Ironically they were the ones who introduced me to Musk back in the days by praising him for have succeeded in creating so many companies like Paypal, Tesla, and SpaceX. Very pro Elon, until now. I am not even sure what happened but Futurism on FB pushes anti-Musk crap all day. Same with the Verge, Gizmodo, and even popular mechanics. Lots of tech sites online became trashy tabloids by crapping on Elon's every tweet of no important relevance.
TYT turned very anti Elon when he became a multi-billionaire, because the people who work for TYT believe all billionaires are inherently "evil". TYT is also extremely ill-informed on most things Elon related. I don't know if their bias clouds their judgement or if they just don't research things they don't like, but most of their Elon segments over the past two years have been filled with inaccurate info.
I used to like TYT but they've changed over the past few years, now I find it difficult to listen to them anymore.
Xepa777
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This is a pump and dump scam from some stock promoter hired by sgml or a shareholder. Same thing with gigametals a few years ago. These Canadian stocks are run by snake oil salesmen. The Canadian securities laws are a joke.
What happened, I think, is that Elon started taking right wing (in American political term) positions.
Very likely but you state this as if you know this to be 100% true (It being a pump and dump). How?
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
TSLA closed at $292.12 (split-adjusted / 3) a year ago: (Feb 17, 2022)
Data?
But u kno what's even more interesting? Tesla made $81B in Revenue for the TTM. Trade that!Cheers!
The main potential downside I can see to holding TSLL long term vs. TSLA is that at some point TSLA may pay juicy dividends and TSLL will not. As you can see from this graph, it has been a good year for TSLL(and TSLA) thus far. 1.72x performance ytd.
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Artful Dodger
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These types of products are not intended to be held overnight. They give access to options-like returns for daytrading in accounts that are restricted from trading options, but are able to buy and sell equities.
For example, Horizons ETFs offers a whole boatload of such products, such as these: (NOT Advice!)
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