apvbguy
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#dumazzNJsomeone needs to come up with a clever hastag and start using it.. Any ideas?
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#dumazzNJsomeone needs to come up with a clever hastag and start using it.. Any ideas?
Someone should start a petition on petitions.whitehouse.gov/ asking for the Commerce Clause to be invoked.
I think the reporting is in error, however I could be in error as well.
they held a vote today, that is quite clear. this has me leaning further to your latter suggestion over the former.
Here is a link to the actual proposed bill if anyone would like to read it
http://www.nj.gov/mvc/pdf/About/PRN_2013_138.pdf
Jobs Impact
It is unlikely that these proposed amendments will have any effect on jobs, whether in the public or private sector, since these proposed amendments merely clarify existing statutory requirements.
the only poor gamesmanship is that tesla has done little to nothing to ingratiate themselves with the powers that be. how can tesla accomplish that? the first step is hiring a local PR person.
Unless the NJ legislature brings out actual swords, you mean figuratively, not literally.IT IS A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD (LITTERLY).
Unless the NJ legislature brings out actual swords, you mean figuratively, not literally.
@Chris, indeed, I hope nothing was finalized today... I'll be glad to not have understood that aspect of NJ politics
fwiw, my point was simply that there was a contradiction from the Governor's administration in saying Tesla was acting outside of existing law, and then voting today to change the rules so Tesla's actions are outside existing laws... if the first claim was so, why the action today...
they did not hold a vote, this was an ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING conducted by the NJ MOTOR VEHICLE COMMISSION. the MVC in NJ is NOT a legislative body.they held a vote today, that is quite clear. this has me leaning further to your latter suggestion over the former.
exactly what false info would that be?I believe you are correct and apvbguy is simply spreading false information.
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/About/9b_Licensing_Service_Final_Adoption_March_2014.pdf
they did not hold a vote, this was an ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING conducted by the NJ MOTOR VEHICLE COMMISSION. the MVC in NJ is NOT a legislative body.
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exactly what false info would that be?
there where 14 local PR people in the room ;-)
Thanks for the PDF, but it is hard to see what actually changed in the amendment. Does anyone know what actual changes are in the amendment? Or exactly which words have been changed?
The New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission approved a rule change Tuesday that would require auto retailers to have a franchise agreement with an auto manufacturer to be granted a license to sell cars in the state.
The administrative rule change approved in New Jersey would in effect make it illegal for the state to renew Tesla's license to sell cars, a move that company officials said would force it to close its two stores in the state, lay off workers and cancel plans for future expansion.
apvbguy, there was indeed a vote today... excerpt from a piece written by the attendees at the meeting who had done the liveblog,
"Unfortunately, even with a turnout which left ‘standing room only’ the NJMVC passed the regulation making it the third state in the US to prohibit the sale of Teslas directly to customers.
After the vote, 14 members people in attendance signed up to speak..."
New Jersey Joins Texas and Arizona as a Non-Tesla State
a matter of semantics, it was a clarification of laws currently on the books, the rule change is just a new interpretation of old law.The Wall Street Journal article is reporting it as a "rule change":
yes you can register and title a tesla, this ruling just addresses who can sell the NEW vehicle.Ok, so new cars cannot be sold there. If you buy in NY, pay NY sales tax, register in NY, and then move to NJ, can you register the vehicle in NJ or no?