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I have read the 110 only gives about 3 miles per charging hour. It would seem DaveTP is getting 3 times that with his converter.
You know, that’s like saying that gas stations were never intended for daily refueling. The real issue here that will be very hard to solve is getting it to charge faster. And faster.
In reality, how can you expect from a lot of people to have a charger at home? Especially in SF/Bay Area where most can’t afford to buy a home. I live in a residential building (not SF) that has a few chargers installed, but that’s also pretty rare here so we are considered lucky. If all residents had an electric car, how would we all ever be able to charge overnight? Sure, the building could always install more, but that also seems far fetched right now.
Or, are you saying that only people with the means to install a charger at home should buy a Tesla and the rest can just go screw themselves? that’s a funky statement right there that I won’t go too much into.
Edit: one of my friends actually returned his Model X because of this. He drives a lot and his home charger was too slow to recharge over night to the range he needed daily, but supercharges in the area were always packed. What would you tell him?
I apologize for my stupid question here, but where is the Tesla store in Corte Madera charging their cars now ? I was hoping to use the Corte Madera location to charge on the way to the Presidio.
Hi, I am very curious about this as I currently plug into 120v a lot of times. So does this just go into 120v and covert on the fly? Simple as that?
Is this the unit you are using? Quick 220 Systems: Model A220-20D 20 Amp Power Supply Straight Blade Outlet
I would be happy to get up to 9 miles compared to the 3 or 4 I am getting now. Plus this is mobile and I can take where ever I go. Thank you for the information
If you haven't gathered from the other responses to the poster you were responding to (and/or responses to those responses), this system takes two separate 110 circuits on separate phases and connects them together the same way a 220 outlet would. It isn't a conversion with losses, and it does increase charge speed because you cannot plug your vehicle into two separate circuits at the same time otherwise.You don't need to convert to 220 because all Tesla chargers can connect directly to 120. Your converter box doesn't magically create more power because it converts to 220 from 110. It just halves the current when it doubles the voltage, so you end up with the same power. Minus the inevitable losses of the conversion itself.
Yeah, they do have restrictions, at the very least, there are multiple wholesale clubs with discount gas pumps that are members only, and you have to pay to be a member. Arguably, "free supercharging" (whether lifetime or limited per annum) is a discount only available to a select group of people, and the ability to use it could have been reasonably restricted by geolocation for all new members going forward at any point in time. Paid supercharging, on the other hand, could still happen anywhere, just like paid charging at third party chargers and normal retail gas stations.You should be able to charge anywhere. Stone Age car owners don’t have fueling restrictions. Neither should evs. Tesla’s supercharging network has to match production growth.
I was pleasantly surprised at the insurance rate I got for our MS P100D, too. MUCH lower than I expected but I shopped around. There was also a huge difference between insurance companies.
Also, we use the MS mostly for road trips, 300 miles+: I always find it puzzling why navigation always suggests multiple stops <30 minutes each. Annoying. Who drives like that? We usually stop once for an hour+ for a meal and a full charge, no different than when we used an ICE.
Maybe I am guessing wrong, but you must be starting with quite a bit of remaining battery before you charge? What size battery pack do you have? The maximum you should be able to get on a wall charger is about 45 miles for each hour if you have the largest optional car charger of 72 amps and charging at that highest rate. So you should get about 120 miles plus or minus a bit ???
In a free market, shortages only happen when prices are artificially kept down.
Solution? Raise prices until there aren't shortages. Use the extra capital you make from high prices and use it to build more stalls. When there aren't shortages anymore, lower the prices again.
Problem solved.
The 15 amp 120 plug will limit the charger to 12 amps. So that would be 120*15=1440 watts. Or 1.44kWh per hour. Model X gets about 333 wh/mile. So that would be about 4 miles/hour.
The 20 amp 120 plug is limited to 16 amps. That would be 16*120=1920 watts. Or about 6 miles/hour.
The most the converter could draw from a standard NEMA plug would be 20 amps. That would be 2400 watts. Or about 7 miles/hour.
Model 3 gets about 250 wh/mile, so if that is the car he drives it would be more like 6, 8, and 9.6 miles/hour for the above three scenarios.
gnuarm, never say never. The model 3s in Europe will have a CCS port only and compatible with all the widely available CCS chargers.
Electrify America is how. Porsche, BMW, ect will support fast CCS charging. And Electrify America is rolling out their fast CCS chargers. But they will have a ways to catch up with Tesla's Supercharger network in terms of number of locations, and number of high speed chargers.
Now that gave me a chuckle. This early adopter had no superchargers and relied on public charging, extension cords, and a ton of adapters for this early adopter. Waiting to supercharge is a "late adopter" to some of us -- who also saw this coming.
What has me pleasantly surprised years later is that the superchargers I use the most, 1/2 way to my cabin in Hope BC, expanded from 6 to 10 stalls well before it even started to get close to being full, such as on long weekends. I understand California is a whole different ballpark, but up here Tesla keeps adding more and more, and even 12 "urban" 72 kW ones to a mall parking lot a few blocks from my office, and none come even close to being full yet -- knock wood! -- because we all know it's coming -- and I'm glad it's no longer free for anyone new.
If you're not going to install an adequate 240V circuit, don't buy the car. Or if you do buy the car, don't complain about how long it takes to charge.
I mean between SF and Petaluma is about an hour in time. So everyone in Marin (Sausalito, Mill Valley, Corte Madera, San Rafael, Terra Linda, etc) has no SuperCharger network unless they are willing to face horrible traffic on 101 for an hour to get to Petaluma.I would also like to see more charging in that area too. Curious. When you say the distance is long from SF to next most SC, are you talking about Ukiah or Corning? Corning, according to my X is about 170 miles and easy for me to make with the X
I apologize for my stupid question here, but where is the Tesla store in Corte Madera charging their cars now ? I was hoping to use the Corte Madera location to charge on the way to the Presidio.
I wish Elon would allow other EV manufacturers to build SCs using his technology. I don';t see how Porsche and it's Taycan is ever going to catch up.
If you haven't gathered from the other responses to the poster you were responding to (and/or responses to those responses), this system takes two separate 110 circuits on separate phases and connects them together the same way a 220 outlet would. It isn't a conversion with losses, and it does increase charge speed because you cannot plug your vehicle into two separate circuits at the same time otherwise.Yeah, they do have restrictions, at the very least, there are multiple wholesale clubs with discount gas pumps that are members only, and you have to pay to be a member. Arguably, "free supercharging" (whether lifetime or limited per annum) is a discount only available to a select group of people, and the ability to use it could have been reasonably restricted by geolocation for all new members going forward at any point in time. Paid supercharging, on the other hand, could still happen anywhere, just like paid charging at third party chargers and normal retail gas stations.
If other manufacturers want to use the Tesla Supercharger network, they would be required to contribute to building it out.