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Wow 281 miles on a full charge... rated or Ideal?
PG&E is known for taking their sweet time hooking up the electricity to the SC sites.How much longer do we have to wait until Dublin, CA SC comes online?
PG&E is known for taking their sweet time hooking up the electricity to the SC sites.
Which for the life of me I cannot understand, you'd think they would jump at the chance to sell all that electricity a SC consumes per month.
PG&E is known for taking their sweet time hooking up the electricity to the SC sites.
Which for the life of me I cannot understand, you'd think they would jump at the chance to sell all that electricity a SC consumes per month.
Red tape, lots and lots of red tape. I'd bet PG&E would like to go faster but it likely required some major equipment upgrades to the service infrastructure in that area which take much longer than they should due to red tape...
Jeff
Interesting, I did not know that.California utilities are actually obligated to serve any customer who wants service, including Tesla. I would like to think that all of our utilities are also customer-focused and provides top service, balanced against affordability. But as far as more electricity use implicitly generating more profits-- that's simply not the case in California.
We have regulated, decoupled utilities where the more power they sell, it's not the more money they make. Utilities are incentivized actually to operate efficiently and are authorized a return on the capital base. This is why you see the per capita use of electricity use in California actually is flat while the rest of the U.S. has gone up. This is also why, it's puzzling to a lot of people, why California utility companies are giving away things like LED light bulbs, $200 rebates for new Energy Star appliances, or free solar/home efficiency consultations. It's because California utilities actually make more money by being customer-centric and efficient, and don't get to make any more money for selling more power.
Can't argue about red tape ... it's a byproduct of large, mature companies for the most part. But red tape usually exists as checks and balances to protect against threats to other goals, like safety and reliability. It's also not an easy thing to connect to the grid. Think about it ... a 12-stalls SC for 6 pairs, at 120kW each. With transformer loses, this is basically hooking up about 1MW of load to the grid. It's not so easy to hook up the equivalent of 100-200 houses worth of spike-pattern, unpredictable load in a parking lot.
- K
California utilities are actually obligated to serve any customer who wants service, including Tesla. I would like to think that all of our utilities are also customer-focused and provides top service, balanced against affordability. But as far as more electricity use implicitly generating more profits-- that's simply not the case in California.
We have regulated, decoupled utilities where the more power they sell, it's not the more money they make. Utilities are incentivized actually to operate efficiently and are authorized a return on the capital base. This is why you see the per capita use of electricity use in California actually is flat while the rest of the U.S. has gone up. This is also why, it's puzzling to a lot of people, why California utility companies are giving away things like LED light bulbs, $200 rebates for new Energy Star appliances, or free solar/home efficiency consultations. It's because California utilities actually make more money by being customer-centric and efficient, and don't get to make any more money for selling more power.
- K
PG&E gets more money if customers use more power. So revenue gets higher with use. Of course their cost is higher, but profit is also higher because they earn net profit per kwh. In addition, there are many tiered rate tariffs, which means that price per kwh goes up as the usage for a household goes up.
PG&E gets more money if customers use more power. So revenue gets higher with use. Of course their cost is higher, but profit is also higher because they earn net profit per kwh. In addition, there are many tiered rate tariffs, which means that price per kwh goes up as the usage for a household goes up.
One thing I don't understand is this discrepancy. City of Santa Clara is the electricity provider to its residents. Their rate is $0.11/kwh. Santa Clara is surrounded by areas where PG&E is the provider. PG&E rate starts at $0.16/kwh and quickly jumps to $0.33/kwh for most households. Makes me think that PG&E is making much more money than they should. So to me California utilities don't seem at all customer-centric or efficient.
WOW!
PG&E is very customer centric mainly due to the efforts of the CA Public Utilities Commission.
There are several residential rate schedules to choose from, E-1(tiered), E-6(TOU), EV-A&B(BEV owners) and the big one Energy Generating "Net-Metering" (trading TOU cost) to meet customer energy usage profiles; that not only reduce energy cost without regard for actual usage but encourage efficient household energy usage.
They also provide cash incentives for energy efficient appliances, retrofit insulation, and the big one Solar PV installations.
I received $1300 cash for the Solar PV system I installed on my house (investment cost $20k after rebates and tax credits).
With the PV system I get Net-Metering where I generate more kWh's than I use during the daylight hours and PG&E gives me the $ credit at the Peak rate and I use most of the kWh's during the much cheaper Partial/Off-Peak rates in the early morning & evening hours.
What this means is, I can actually use more kWh's than the PV system generates and the extra kWh I use during Partial/Off-Peak periods (Charge the Tesla, etc.) is drawn from the Peak kWh generation credits.
If I assume a 30 year useful life for my PV system, then my kWh cost is fixed at under $.04/kWh (44kWh/day) for the 30 yrs., as long as my usage doesn't far exceed the Net-Metering credits. I can always add more panels if necessary.
What does this mean?
For the last 3 years, I have only paid the $4/mo. grid connection fee for my electricity (increasing to $10/mo.) received True-Up payments of over $200 each year and I have used 48 MWh's of electricity to including adding the MS charging (15 kWh/day) during the last 4 months.
If this is not customer centric I don't know what is!!
Um... Do you work for PG&E? It's very odd to see someone talk to highly of them...
Jeff
I am getting the same feeling about the very pro PG&E posts.
I hope someone addresses this:One thing I don't understand is this discrepancy. City of Santa Clara is the electricity provider to its residents. Their rate is $0.11/kwh. Santa Clara is surrounded by areas where PG&E is the provider. PG&E rate starts at $0.16/kwh and quickly jumps to $0.33/kwh for most households. Makes me think that PG&E is making much more money than they should. So to me California utilities don't seem at all customer-centric or efficient.