chickensevil
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Interesting you can see it venting something just before explosion.
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Interesting you can see it venting something just before explosion.
Mod note: some posts were moved to the politics quarantine thread.
Also re: thread title -- I added "test" rocket and McGregor, TX location to differentiate it from a NASA or commercial launch, but the rocket did in fact explode -- that would probably be the most common word used when searching/scanning threads, so it's important IMO to leave it in the thread title.
Thanks JRod for the nice video find.
Also re: thread title -- I added "test" rocket and McGregor, TX location to differentiate it from a NASA or commercial launch, but the rocket did in fact explode -- that would probably be the most common word used when searching/scanning threads, so it's important IMO to leave it in the thread title.
Thanks JRod for the nice video find.
Maybe it's good have a brother, to gives a supportive point of view (jump to mark 19min)...
(or not)
I think it's FTS working, ripping the tanks open. There just is a delay before LOX/kerosene-cloud ignite.
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chickensevil
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For some reason the time jump piece didn't work for me in the link, you want to go to the 19 minute mark for the piece being referenced here
Kimbal says something along the lines of his investment in SpaceX was worth it if all he got to see was a bunch of rockets exploding.
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The first word in the title of the article is "Experimental". I'm quite surprised that the fact that it was a test rocket was so up front, rather than being buried in the text. Good on the editor for deciding to be fair like that.
You're not engineering rockets properly unless you blow up a rocket during testing.
To me, it looks like the system performed perfectly. It recognised a flight control problem and terminated the mission. S--t happens, no one was hurt, no cargo was lost. Maybe spacex needs another rocket but no biggie.
To me, it looks like the system performed perfectly. It recognised a flight control problem and terminated the mission. S--t happens, no one was hurt, no cargo was lost. Maybe spacex needs another rocket but no biggie.
They're actually already building one:
Rockets that return home SpaceX pushing the boundaries | NASASpaceFlight.com
chickensevil
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Yes, low altitude tests like... How to blow up a rocket.
Seriously I hope they are able to build that facility to let that rocket exhibit the same features we have at a normal launch pad. Having a tower with the holding arms shoot up to 300k feet and then deploy the legs for a smooth landing. I expect that test will likely need to happen before they do a serious landing attempt on solid ground.
Seriously I hope they are able to build that facility to let that rocket exhibit the same features we have at a normal launch pad. Having a tower with the holding arms shoot up to 300k feet and then deploy the legs for a smooth landing. I expect that test will likely need to happen before they do a serious landing attempt on solid ground.
SpaceX isn't the only one with oopses this week. This happened in Alaska, at the Kodiak Launch Complex, a few hours ago:
Army rocket exploded seconds after lift-off from Kodiak site | Alaska Dispatch
Unlike the test at McGregor, however, this one was carrying a real payload - the Advanced Hypersonic Weapon glider. Oops, indeed.
Army rocket exploded seconds after lift-off from Kodiak site | Alaska Dispatch
Unlike the test at McGregor, however, this one was carrying a real payload - the Advanced Hypersonic Weapon glider. Oops, indeed.
chickensevil
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hmmmmm non-ballistic projectile... you mean, like this?
Kinetic bombardment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Oh, sorry, apparently it is just a really big bomb that has it's entire flight path controlled (like a cruise missile) as part of this program:
Prompt Global Strike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Of which, apparently, Kinetic space platforms were also considered... this program is way less interesting than "Rods of God".
Kinetic bombardment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Oh, sorry, apparently it is just a really big bomb that has it's entire flight path controlled (like a cruise missile) as part of this program:
Prompt Global Strike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Of which, apparently, Kinetic space platforms were also considered... this program is way less interesting than "Rods of God".
The payload or modifications required to carry it might have been the cause of the problem. Without further information you can't assume it was a failure of an operational launcher. The same way the SpaceX rocket didn't impact the regular launch schedule.
chickensevil
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And we still don't know why the SpaceX rocket failed. It might have been something silly that is only specific to the F9R that wouldn't have anything to do with their normal rockets. Just something to keep in mind.
Most likely a controls failure. The rocket attitude was clearly abnormal prior to the abort. That could be caused by anything within the control loop, from engine gimbals to sensors to control algorithms.
Since SpaceX says the incident does not impact flight operations, it must be some hardware and/or algorithms that are only present on the test rocket.
I would not be the slightest bit surprised to hear that it was a software issue.
Since SpaceX says the incident does not impact flight operations, it must be some hardware and/or algorithms that are only present on the test rocket.
I would not be the slightest bit surprised to hear that it was a software issue.
chickensevil
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stupid software engineers and their bugs! Can't anyone get a decent coder around here anymore!
stupid software engineers and their bugs! Can't anyone get a decent coder around here anymore!
Just depends on if the team is having a good week or not!
I have bruised both rear cheeks from kicking my self in the ass after being heads down totally focused on quality shipments of various software releases that worked great in our test environments; to discover the customers security environment layers was totally lying about the real world the software was executing in!!!!
Fuller disclosure (with a pic) of yesterday's Kodiak blow-up:
Army rocket blown up during failed launch in Kodiak | Alaska Dispatch
Among other things article shows the rocket was an old Polaris missile. Gee, ain't it great we didn't use that particular oops-er during some 1960s-1970s armageddon showdown with USSR?
Army rocket blown up during failed launch in Kodiak | Alaska Dispatch
Among other things article shows the rocket was an old Polaris missile. Gee, ain't it great we didn't use that particular oops-er during some 1960s-1970s armageddon showdown with USSR?
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