Problems with loading the superchilled LOX.
Yeah. John Essberger mentioned something about the LOX loading dragging the launch timing which caused the abort. It was right at the end of the broadcast.
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Problems with loading the superchilled LOX.
And "maybe every 10th time" is quite the exaggeration.
Yeah. John Essberger mentioned something about the LOX loading dragging the launch timing which caused the abort. It was right at the end of the broadcast.
Is this just teething problems, or will "Deep Cryo LOX" always be this challenging?
It is certainly challenging but I have confidence they will get it right more consistently. Their competitors have said it can't be done yet SpaceX did it on the launch where they successfully landed the first stage back at the Cape.Is this just teething problems, or will "Deep Cryo LOX" always be this challenging?
Is this just teething problems, or will "Deep Cryo LOX" always be this challenging?
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 FT - ORBCOMM-2 - RTF (Return To Flight) DISCUSSION THREAD
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More importantly, given the temperatures listed above, could someone make an educated guess about the amount of fuel and oxidizer carried?
That's not an easy question! For the RP-1 density I used two sources:
http://kinetics.nist.gov/RealFuels/macccr/macccr2008/Bruno2.pdf
http://atlasbases.homestead.com/Analysis_of_RP-1_Fuel_Density_-_SAWE0323.pdf
The first report gives a density range from 0.8236 to 0.8436 kg/L at -6.7 C. The second report gives a range from 0.8176 to 0.8265 kg/L. At 21.1 C, the range for the second report is 0.7968 to 0.8056 kg/L. The 0.8056 kg/L density is close to other values I have seen, so I believe the second report is more valid with the value of 0.8256 kg/L being very close to the low end of the first report. Thus, I will assume the following values
dfl = 0.8056 kg/L (low fuel density at 21.1 C)
dfh = 0.8265 kg/L (high fuel density at -6.7 C)
For the LOX density, I used the equation given in Section 3.3 of
http://www.nist.gov/srd/upload/jpcrd423.pdf
I get the following densities (pascal program attached).
dol = 1.1420 kg/L (LOX low density at -183.0 C)
doh = 1.2539 kg/L (LOX high density at -206.7 C)
The Merlin 1C mixture ratio is 2.2.
http://iacse.commercial-space.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/iac-08d213.pdf
malu5531 worked out a ratio of 2.36 for the Merlin 1D+. I couldn't find a source for the actual ratio.
SpaceX: Merlin 1D Updates and Discussion Thread 2
Assuming a ratio of 2.2 we get
dl = 1.0102 kg/L (low density)
dh = 1.0795 kg/L (high density)
For a ratio of 2.36 we get
dl = 1.0158 kg/L (low density)
dh = 1.0867 kg/L (high density)
That gives increases of 6.86% and 6.98%, respectively. According to
Falcon 9 v1.1 Rockets
the v1.1 first stage propellant mass is 395.7 t. Thus, the increase in propellant mass could range from 27.1 to 27.6 t.
The second stage was already reported to have a 10% increase in propellant volume.
SpaceX Falcon 9 v1.1 Data Sheet
The second stage v1.1 has a propellant mass of 92.67 t. Thus, the increase would be from 16.25 to 16.38 t.
Admittedly I haven't read through this entire thread, but is anyone down here in Orlando? Hubby and I just debarked from a cruise ship, and I fully admit to crossing fingers for launch delays while we were at sea. So I am uber excited that we may get a chance to see a launch tonight. Am thinking of trying the NASA causeway. Suggestions on how early to show up?
Currently holding at T - 10 minutes 42 seconds. There's a boat in the way. Still hoping to launch tonight.Just loaded the webcast. I see the count is at T-1:33 but I have no sound and the video image is frozen. Has SpaceX stopped the video feed?