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Prediction: Coal has fallen. Nuclear is next then Oil.

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Big thanks to Australia and Elon for getting this giant ball rolling for utility scale storage!
 
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Steam generation will still decrease over time as this system is still extracting/transferring heat.

The thermosiphon they use is just a passive closed loop system (so no pump). Because it is closed loop, it should lose heat less readily.

The article mentions "there is no need for an energy-sapping pump, which makes typical geothermal processes less efficient and more expensive." Certainly a pump would make the system more expensive, but not necessarily less efficient if the pump increases system energy output from enhanced heat exchange > loss from energy input to operate said pump.
 
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None of the big oil and gas producers surrounding the North Sea plan to stop drilling soon enough to meet the 1.5C (2.7F) global heating target, a report has found. The five countries – the UK, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway and Denmark – have failed to align their oil and gas policies with their climate promises under the Paris agreement, according to the campaign group Oil Change International. North Sea governments must act urgently, said Silje Ask Lundberg from Oil Change International, who co-wrote the report. “Failure to address these issues not only undermines international climate goals, but also jeopardises the liveability of our planet.”

The report found that policies in Norway and the UK were furthest from the Paris climate agreement because the countries were “aggressively” exploring and licensing new oil and gas fields. In 2021, the International Energy Agency found there was no room for new oil exploration in its pathway to net zero emissions.
 
Steam generation will still decrease over time as this system is still extracting/transferring heat.
There is a thermal equilibrium point where heat in from the earth equals heat out from the power plant. Depending on those effective resistances, the equilibrium point will be achieved sooner rather than later. If sooner, it will remain at that operating point indefinitely. If later, the system output decreases until equilibrium is reached. During the transition period, the overdraw is supplied by thermal mass.

The article mentions "there is no need for an energy-sapping pump, which makes typical geothermal processes less efficient and more expensive." Certainly a pump would make the system more expensive, but not necessarily less efficient if the pump increases system energy output from enhanced heat exchange > loss from energy input to operate said pump.

It depends if they are including hotel loads of the balance of plant, in which case higher net hole output increases efficiency. If limiting the observation to the hole, highest efficiency (not highest output) is achieved when added energy is minimized, and you can't get lower than zero.
 
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There is a thermal equilibrium point where heat in from the earth equals heat out from the power plant.

I'm still pretty new to geothermal technology, but it sounds like you understand it pretty well. I'm wondering if there's an economic case for over sizing the plant somewhat to sell higher priced MWh for "peaking", then throttling back down a bit when load relaxes mid day or mid night to preserve down hole temperature for when it's needed most. Or to putting some heat into an above ground heat store, so the plant is pulling "equilibrium" power on a steady state but can peak / boost when the grid demands it. Know of any examples of either or both of those being deployed?