-
Want to remove ads? Register an account and login to see fewer ads, and become a Supporting Member to remove almost all ads.
Poll: When will FSD V12 be in wide release?
- Thread starter Terminator857
- Start date
HW101 isn’t a limited access freeway, where v11.x has been noted to take over. And 11.4.9 doesn’t cross solid yellows unless there’s a dump truck on the side or some such. So, this error appears to be all on 12.3.
Interestingly, I’ve always noted that while running on the 11.x stacks, FSD has generally had what looks like a near-magical ability to pull yellow lines out of beat-up, faded, or near crippled stripes on the road, even synthesizing stripes in areas where there’s stripes here, and further up, but not for the next 30 yards due to patching or something. Where the car went off the rails in the above appears to be precisely in one of those faded-out areas. So, a regression on a function that’s been partly or mostly solved for a couple of years.
This is likely directly linked to the photons-in, driving-out NN-based machine, since synthesizing those extra yellow lines was probably done in the older C++ code, now replaced, not in the image recognizer NN engine.
May be that more training may do the trick. Although I have to wonder if the final product is going to have some C++ code shimmed back in.
PianoAl
Active Member
No, I'm going to check, but I'm sure the yellow line is not faded there. It's just some artifact of the video.
Of course it could be that the artifact is what is causing the problem.
Easy way to tell the stack change is to enable auto speed. When you see Auto Max, you're on v12 stack. When you see a speed number there, you're on v11
PianoAl
Active Member
HW101 isn’t a limited access freeway, where v11.x has been noted to take over. And 11.4.9 doesn’t cross solid yellows unless there’s a dump truck on the side or some such. So, this error appears to be all on 12.3.
Interestingly, I’ve always noted that while running on the 11.x stacks, FSD has generally had what looks like a near-magical ability to pull yellow lines out of beat-up, faded, or near crippled stripes on the road, even synthesizing stripes in areas where there’s stripes here, and further up, but not for the next 30 yards due to patching or something. Where the car went off the rails in the above appears to be precisely in one of those faded-out areas. So, a regression on a function that’s been partly or mostly solved for a couple of years.
This is likely directly linked to the photons-in, driving-out NN-based machine, since synthesizing those extra yellow lines was probably done in the older C++ code, now replaced, not in the image recognizer NN engine.
May be that more training may do the trick. Although I have to wonder if the final product is going to have some C++ code shimmed back in.
Yeah - right at the sharper part of curve, where it goes around, is where the car crossed over. The human eye/brain can tell that the lines are continuous; 11.x said the lines were continuous; but, right at that spot up there, that's where 12.3 went off the rails. Shouldn't have oughta done that, but, that's why we're beta testers. Hope you sent in a report.
@PianoAl
Yeah, you are right. It needs attention. You can submit that glitch multiple times by driving it like Chuck Cook does left hand turns!
Be careful tho, you don’t need to become an accident statistic.
With neural nets needing “data” to change, maybe retry a bunch of times, a few score?
Best wishes on your future boredom redriving!
Or maybe just keep redoing it until you approach “insanity (doing the same thing over and over again, expecting it to change) ” and stop if the firmware refuses to change
I know I’ve submitted a lot of voice recordings over the years and some were adopted!
Yeah, you are right. It needs attention. You can submit that glitch multiple times by driving it like Chuck Cook does left hand turns!
Be careful tho, you don’t need to become an accident statistic.
With neural nets needing “data” to change, maybe retry a bunch of times, a few score?
Best wishes on your future boredom redriving!
Or maybe just keep redoing it until you approach “insanity (doing the same thing over and over again, expecting it to change) ” and stop if the firmware refuses to change
I know I’ve submitted a lot of voice recordings over the years and some were adopted!
Last edited:
DanCar
Active Member
Looks like another batch of downloads has started:
Search for 2023.44.30.25 and or 12.3
Search for 2023.44.30.25 and or 12.3
henderrj
Active Member
I believe it's the shadow. It is amazing that they're still having problems with shadows and auto steer. They even had it with ap1! I've noticed it on my 2018 model X as well. The shadows will throw the thing off all the time!
SteveO332
Member
I subscribed monthly on March 16th. I'll update this post when/if I get the invite to 12.3 (on v11 at the moment).
PianoAl
Active Member
Excellent observation! I hadn't noticed that. That could be it. I test drive that section other times with no shadow and no problems.
On teslsfi I see over 60% of the cars they track have 2024.x so won't be eligible until V12.x moves onto the 2024.x update stream. We won't see 'widespread' release over there, although as of this moment, I'm only seeing 18 installs and 73 downloads available so widespread is probably not going to be with this 2023.44.30.25. I sense another update coming.
Most of the cars on Teslafi almost certainly do not have FSD, so are not a factor for 12.3.
I believe that nearly all cars that were on FSD at the end of the year are still on 2023.44.30.x and will be getting 12.3 very soon.
People who recently bought/subscribed to FSD will be on 2024.x and will need to wait for a future release.
Tesla Summon to get major improvements, Autopark gets a new name
Tesla Summon and Autopark are set to gain major improvements next month, according to company CEO Elon Musk.
www.teslarati.com
If I can get out of my Tesla at store, esp Costco, front door then tell it to go find parking, I think that's worth $6K...
DanCar
Active Member
L
Cost less than that to have door dash do your shopping.Tesla Summon to get major improvements, Autopark gets a new name
Tesla Summon and Autopark are set to gain major improvements next month, according to company CEO Elon Musk.
If I can get out of my Tesla at store, esp Costco, front door then tell it to go find parking, I think that's worth $6K...
Got 12.3 on my hw4 Y today but hw3 S was updated a week ago to 2024.2.7, so I assume I will have a lengthy wait for the S. So far, I don’t see any great improvement. Lots of jerky moves and still hesitant at stop signs and rights on red. Perhaps after more drives I will be more impressed. But I wouldn’t bet a dime on it
.
.
Last edited:
Forgot to mention that within ten minutes of trying out the “fabulous” 12.3 on my Y today my wipers gave a quick swipe of the dry windshield. Sort of a middle finger to us suckers who purchased FSD and even consider that the YouTube prostitutes are being truthful for a change.
Similar threads
- Poll
