EVTuning
Former Vendor
Range of adjustment is huge. Not a problem at all.Do you think this can get -3 camber to -1 or even less?
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Range of adjustment is huge. Not a problem at all.Do you think this can get -3 camber to -1 or even less?
This is hardly “new”. Adjustable camber links have been available for about 5 years, just not from this particular vendor.
@artsci i think you meant adjustable ride height links right? There is one company that made a fixed length arm and I know unplugged dabbled in making adjustable arms. I don’t know of anyone going the same route we did to achieve adjustable camber.Which vendors have had them?
BBC Machine... I have a set on my 2012. They worked great.
@artsci i think you meant adjustable ride height links right? There is one company that made a fixed length arm and I know unplugged dabbled in making adjustable arms. I don’t know of anyone going the same route we did to achieve adjustable camber.
Not at all. They are adjustable camber links. BBC Speed And Machine in New Jersey made them and offered them for sale in October, 2014 and one could say that they're a work of machinist's art. I've had them on my car for years and they've saved me $ thousands in rear tire costs. Offset bushings are a different approach and I have no idea whether they work as effectively as these. The links cost about $800 with the $200 credit for the old links. See post #502 in this extensive thread on the topic. And here's a photo of one of the two links:
Gotcha looks like this was just a difference in terminology mixup. My apologies.Not at all. They are adjustable camber links. BBC Speed And Machine in New Jersey made them and offered them for sale in October, 2014 and one could say that they're a work of machinist's art. I've had them on my car for years and they've saved me $ thousands in rear tire costs. Offset bushings are a different approach and I have no idea whether they work as effectively as these. The links cost about $800 with the $200 credit for the old links. See post #502 in this extensive thread on the topic. And here's a photo of one of the two links:
Wow, that is twice as much as our rear camber arms for the Model 3. *Quietly raises prices*
Not at all. They are adjustable camber links. BBC Speed And Machine in New Jersey made them and offered them for sale in October, 2014 and one could say that they're a work of machinist's art. I've had them on my car for years and they've saved me $ thousands in rear tire costs. Offset bushings are a different approach and I have no idea whether they work as effectively as these. The links cost about $800 with the $200 credit for the old links. See post #502 in this extensive thread on the topic. And here's a photo of one of the two links:
Wow, that is twice as much as our rear camber arms for the Model 3. *Quietly raises prices*
Yup, which is why I contact you first and you said "We don't make any Model S parts at this time. As we see it, any parts that are in demand would already be available by now. "
Not only that, I bought mine more recently than artsci and they were $1200 ($1000 after a $200 credit for supplying my own bushings bought new from Tesla).
We weren't aware that people were unsatisfied with the bushing solution vs. full arms. Is this still the case?
I don't think there's ever been a debate about which solution is more preferred. Those who are price sensitive will pick the bushing solution. There's more R&D up front to get a workable solution because you have to engineer for the fact that off center bushings don't provide the same level of compression and torsion travel that center hole bushings provide. Plus, from what i've observed, it's a pain to engineer them correctly so that they hold. Imagine if the bushing turns and instead of taking out 0.5 of camber you add 0.5 more negative camber and now your twice as far off as you were before you have corrected it.
I'm sure the vendor here has done a marvelous job engineering these and I'm sure they'll work great but there are compromises when using a bushing design over an entire link replacement. Additionally, changing the camber at link/frame bushing end requires fixing your ride height probably several times since changing the ride height after changing the camber changes the camber which when fixed changes the ride height etc.
Also, with a link replacement that uses the factory bushings pressed in, you've maintained the factory interface between all the parts that have movement so you've maintained the exact same ride quality without tuning mismatch between the front and rear.