Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation [Car announced 04.23.2024]

[cptnslo]

60-130 correlates pretty closely with horsepower. I'd be surprised if the M3P matches the MSLR with a ~200hp deficit.

This. I doubt it’s going to be a 7 second 60-130 car

 

[mpgxsvcd]

60-130mph…If the MS LR can do it, the M3P can as well. Depends what Tesla wants it to be.

Just wait for real world in coming weeks people. Chillax!

Model 3 Performance still only has a rear permanent magnet motor. Model S LR has two permanent magnet motors. You can’t trap 130 mph in the 1/4 mile without both motors being permanent magnet motors. 125 mph is about all we can hope for in the Model 3 Performance.

 

[mpgxsvcd]

This. I doubt it’s going to be a 7 second 60-130 car

It won’t even be close to that. 9 seconds perhaps.

 

[viperau]

It won’t even be close to that. 9 seconds perhaps.

I agree. My guess is A 11.0@125mph in the quarter, which would mean around 9sec 60-130.

 

[Destiny1701]

60-130 correlates pretty closely with horsepower. I'd be surprised if the M3P matches the MSLR with a ~200hp deficit.

I didn’t meant match the LR lol. I meant in terms of continuous power output for higher speeds as the LR does.

Also the M3 weighs less no?

 

[mpgxsvcd]

I agree. My guess is A 11.0@125mph in the quarter, which would mean around 9sec 60-130.

If it hits 125 mph it will be well below 11.0.

 

[terranx]

I didn’t meant match the LR lol. I meant in terms of continuous power output for higher speeds as the LR does.

Also the M3 weighs less no?

We're talking like a 600lb difference. At those speeds, drag is a far bigger factor than that weight difference. So the horsepower requirements tend to be pretty similar.

 

[ScottUK]

Any idea when the first cars will be delivered to customers? I’ve had a pick up date of 10am June 13th and own a Dragy. I’m sure there will be loads of deliveries before then but if not will post some figures. UK LG car so I’m not expecting much over my current M3P.

 

[mpgxsvcd]

Any idea when the first cars will be delivered to customers? I’ve had a pick up date of 10am June 13th and own a Dragy. I’m sure there will be loads of deliveries before then but if not will post some figures. UK LG car so I’m not expecting much over my current M3P.

What does your current car run for 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile?

 

[Nabush]

You guys talking about power figures... You keep talking about battery max power... battery max power is not motors max power... You have losses in the inverters and motors, especially at full power. Tesla probably announces power to the wheels. Probably 90% of the battery power goes to the wheels at full load...10% losses between interverters, motors and gearboxes sounds about right fully loaded. 510hp makes sense.

 

[Jeremy3292]

Maybe a dumb question, but does changing the wheels to a non staggered setup affect anything on the car? Alignment?

 

[Ultimos]

That's the thing, everyone who HAS driven it says it is significantly changed. 20% more power across the power band above 60mph is a lot. That's 100hp more over 60mph, that is pretty significant.

Anyway, all the speculation will be over soon. Looks like deliveries are imminent in the USA and I will have my draggy on my test drive here in Australia and ill be sure get as much data as I can at legal speeds. If I get enough time there is also a public weighbridge pretty close by.

Can you please measure 0-100km/h without any of that subtracted rollout nonsense.

 

[Destiny1701]

Can you please measure 0-100km/h without any of that subtracted rollout nonsense.

And at 100, 90 and say 60 soc?
(Oh and 17.8c temp and barometric pressure 101.3, with a NW wind of 25km/h)
lol.

But ya at diff SOC’s would be great!

 

[mpgxsvcd]

You guys talking about power figures... You keep talking about battery max power... battery max power is not motors max power... You have losses in the inverters and motors, especially at full power. Tesla probably announces power to the wheels. Probably 90% of the battery power goes to the wheels at full load...10% losses between interverters, motors and gearboxes sounds about right fully loaded. 510hp makes sense.

Max battery power of the current car is 436 KW(585 HP). 90% of 436 is 392.4 KW(526 HP). Those numbers all line up with expectations.

There is a possibility that US based cars will hit 461 KW at the battery instead of the 436 KW of the old cars. Not sure if that is possible or not though.

 

[JimShaw]

Stopped by Tesla in Riverside, Calif. and on the showroom floor was a beautiful black 2024 M3P

 

[MODEL+]

Maybe a dumb question, but does changing the wheels to a non staggered setup affect anything on the car? Alignment?

Changing the wheel configuration does not affect the alignment at all. Only when you start making adjustments to suspension parts.


-Danny

 

[viperau]

And at 100, 90 and say 60 soc?
(Oh and 17.8c temp and barometric pressure 101.3, with a NW wind of 25km/h)
lol.

But ya at diff SOC’s would be great!

haha ill only have the car for a hour since as you might have guessed, they are fully booked for test drives.

But I will supercharge it to over 90% before testing.

 

[PhaseWhite]

I actually know this person irl.

He is a very experienced racer and has had a 2019m3p, tracked it, hillclimbed it.

I trust his judgement although there could be some extenuating circumstances. I have my own test drive on friday which I'm hoping to take a draggy too and get a sneaky true 0-100kph on the highway.

Draggy numbers would be very much appreciated!

 

[Apprunner]

Draggy numbers would be very much appreciated!

Yeah and none of this 0-60 weak sauce. We need a good romp to 130mph to get a 1/4th time!

 

[viperau]

Yeah and none of this 0-60 weak sauce. We need a good romp to 130mph to get a 1/4th time!

haha unfortunately the test cars are limited to 80mph~