A friend is buying a Model Y and asked whether it will be able to use non-Tesla superchargers. I gave this response below. Anyone have additional info?
Yes, the car trip planner will show non-Tesla superchargers.
But, it is not so simple.
1) There are very, very few non-Tesla superchargers out there.
2) Non-Tesla superchargers don't have a J1772 plug. They either have CHAdeMO(Japanese standard) or CCS (European standard). Tesla sells a CHAdeMO-Tesla conversion plug for $500, but few people buy it. I'm confused why they don't sell a CCS conversion plug. (BTW, Tesla's in Europe have the CCS plug built in since there are many CCS chargers there.)
3) Most non-Tesla chargers are slow. Most non-Tesla chargers are actually Level-2 (6-12Kwatts) and they have the J1772 plug. The Level-3 non-Tesla superchargers (50-300 Kwatts) are often in the low range (50Watts) while Tesla superchargers are 150-250 Kwatts, which is 3-4 times faster.
4) When using the trip planner, by default it only shows superchargers >100 Kwatts. You have to change an easy setting to see the slower ones.
Are you aware of this?
Level-1 charger is a standard 120 volt, 12 amp wall outlet, about 1.2 Kwatts. Kind of useless. Old. For batteries with a ~50 mile range (Volt, Leaf).
Level-2 charger is what most people have in their garage, 240 volt, 30-70 amps, 6-14 Kwatts. These have J1772 plugs or Tesla plugs.
Level-3 chargers are superchargers, 50-300 Kwatts. (They actually use 500 volt, 100-600 amps, DC) This is serious electricity. You can melt a car if the battery can't absorb it. These have the Tesla or CHAdeMO or CCS plugs. Europe is standardizing on CCS because of more government involvement. Tesla has spent $10 billion on their early supercharger network so I don't criticize them for trying to get some personal benefit from it. But, it is a shame there is no standard in the US.
The ChargePoint app is good and shows you all types of chargers. Get the ChargePoint App | ChargePoint
Yes, the car trip planner will show non-Tesla superchargers.
But, it is not so simple.
1) There are very, very few non-Tesla superchargers out there.
2) Non-Tesla superchargers don't have a J1772 plug. They either have CHAdeMO(Japanese standard) or CCS (European standard). Tesla sells a CHAdeMO-Tesla conversion plug for $500, but few people buy it. I'm confused why they don't sell a CCS conversion plug. (BTW, Tesla's in Europe have the CCS plug built in since there are many CCS chargers there.)
3) Most non-Tesla chargers are slow. Most non-Tesla chargers are actually Level-2 (6-12Kwatts) and they have the J1772 plug. The Level-3 non-Tesla superchargers (50-300 Kwatts) are often in the low range (50Watts) while Tesla superchargers are 150-250 Kwatts, which is 3-4 times faster.
4) When using the trip planner, by default it only shows superchargers >100 Kwatts. You have to change an easy setting to see the slower ones.
Are you aware of this?
Level-1 charger is a standard 120 volt, 12 amp wall outlet, about 1.2 Kwatts. Kind of useless. Old. For batteries with a ~50 mile range (Volt, Leaf).
Level-2 charger is what most people have in their garage, 240 volt, 30-70 amps, 6-14 Kwatts. These have J1772 plugs or Tesla plugs.
Level-3 chargers are superchargers, 50-300 Kwatts. (They actually use 500 volt, 100-600 amps, DC) This is serious electricity. You can melt a car if the battery can't absorb it. These have the Tesla or CHAdeMO or CCS plugs. Europe is standardizing on CCS because of more government involvement. Tesla has spent $10 billion on their early supercharger network so I don't criticize them for trying to get some personal benefit from it. But, it is a shame there is no standard in the US.
The ChargePoint app is good and shows you all types of chargers. Get the ChargePoint App | ChargePoint