nwdiver
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Do you guys remember this? Because why buy a rechargeable AA battery for $2 and a $10 charger when you can buy a Hydrogen core for $20 and a electrolyzer for $200.
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Hydrogen vs. Battery
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nwdiver
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.... empty wallets?
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Wow. I'm sorry to hear that. I bought my house in the spring of 2019. Before the purchase closed, I had gotten a recommendation for a solar installer from my realtor. I think it was the day we closed, but maybe it was the next day, I called the installer (and one other just to see what I thought of them; I was not impressed by the other one). He came over soon after and together we worked out the size of my proposed system, which included three Powerwalls, two for the house, and one for the cottage behind the house.
There were applications to the electric utility, and the installer had several installs ahead of me. I think it was 2 1/2 months later when the applications had been approved and the installer was able to start work on my house. The Powerwalls had arrived shortly before that. A couple of weeks before, I think. Also the gateways and inverters and whatever all else. Roughly three months after closing on the house, he switched on my system.
I guess I was lucky to buy my house and install when I did.
I had been driving electric for over a decade by that time. Why buy a car that requires you to go to a special filling station when you can "fill up" at home? In Spokane my car was filled from the grid, which is all hydro-electric. Here, I was on the dirty grid for 3 months and since then, all solar.
In South Dakota, where the wind blows fiercely, an acquaintance of mine installed a wind charger atop a derelict fire-watch tower that he disassembled, transported, and re-erected himself on his farm. He sold excess electricity back to the grid. This was probably 30 or 40 years ago. The income from the wind charger was his retirement plan.
Of course, this was in one of the windiest places where people actually live.
Watts_Up
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Another fish story...
French startup launches hydrogen-powered bicyles
A French start-up has become the first company to start factory production of hydrogen-powered bicycles for use in corporate or municipal fleets.
www.reuters.com
January 16, 2018
With bike’s range limited by the size of the hydrogen tank, Pragma is also working on a bike that will convert plain water into hydrogen
aboard the bike, using a chemical reaction between water and aluminum or magnesium powder to produce hydrogen gas.
“In the next two-three years we want to enter the consumer market and massively increase the scale of our operations,” said Forte.
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mblakele
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China Approves Renewable Mega-Project for Green Hydrogen
[…] Inner Mongolia’s Energy Administration has given the go ahead to a cluster of plants in the cities of Ordos and Baotou that will use 1.85 gigawatts of solar and 370 megawatts of wind to produce 66,900 tons of green hydrogen a year, the Hydrogen Energy Industry Promotion Association said in a report. Development will begin in October and the projects will be operational in mid-2023, the association said, without specifying the cost or the developers.
The report is here, in Chinese:
It will be interesting to see if this project meets its schedule, and how China uses the resulting hydrogen.
Put it in fusion reactor it to make helium, solving the helium shortage!
Yeah, well, then there's this:
www.h2-view.com
Chris Jackson steps down as UK HFCA chair
The UK set its course for a hydrogen future yesterday with the long-awaited unveiling of the country’s first-ever hydrogen strategy.
www.h2-view.com
Watts_Up
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Yeah, well, then there's this:
Chris Jackson steps down as UK HFCA chair
The UK set its course for a hydrogen future yesterday with the long-awaited unveiling of the country’s first-ever hydrogen strategy.
Here we go...
'Expensive distraction': Chair of UK Hydrogen and Fuel Cell Association resigns citing blue hydrogen concerns
Protium CEO Chris Jackson claims blue hydrogen risks locking UK into reliance on fossil fuels as he quits the trade body
www.businessgreen.com
I was thinking about wildfire season approaching. People often ask me whether I'm worried about getting my car charged during an evacuation (I'm not, I keep the car at a relatively high SOC during red flag events). But what if your only car is a FCEV?
I drive by the station in Saratoga almost every day. The H2 pump has been signed off for weeks.
FCEVs sound pretty bad on paper, as far as efficiency and carbon footprint. From reports I gather that they're quite nice to drive. Which you cannot do if you cannot get fuel for them.
Let's see, which would I rather do: drive all over town looking for an open filling station, assuming I lived in a town that had any, or plug in at home? So hard to decide! Oh, and all my electricity is free.
Let's see, which would I rather do: drive all over town looking for an open filling station, assuming I lived in a town that had any, or plug in at home? So hard to decide! Oh, and all my electricity is free.
Sion Power introducing 17 Ah, 810 Wh/L, 400 Wh/kg lithium-metal battery for EVs
Lithium-metal rechargeable battery developer Sion Power will introduce its Licerion rechargeable battery for electric vehicles at The Battery Show North America in Novi, Michigan in September. The 17 Ah Licerion Electric Vehicle (EV) cell offers more than 400 Wh/kg and 810 Wh/L in a large-format...
www.greencarcongress.com
Independently tested already, neat!
So, I've been working from the office the past few days. On Wednesday night, near midnight I left to go home, passing by the H2 station (it's a gas station with one H2 dispenser). I saw a a Mirai fueling.
From a distance, I could see two more Mirais and one car unknown to me before I went up a ramp. Two were waiting from the street as there's no other logical way to queue up there for where the H2 pump is. I didn't bother turning around to go over to talk to the drivers.
For kicks, a Google search for hydrogen shortage bay area turned up that began 4 days ago.
From a distance, I could see two more Mirais and one car unknown to me before I went up a ramp. Two were waiting from the street as there's no other logical way to queue up there for where the H2 pump is. I didn't bother turning around to go over to talk to the drivers.
For kicks, a Google search for hydrogen shortage bay area turned up that began 4 days ago.
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Out of curiosity, where does that page come from? A quick Google search led me to Station Status | Station Status which does show a bunch of offline stations but doesn't show how many kg remain.
The situation actually looks a little better than it was a week ago. The two nearest me, Saratoga and Campbell, had been red for months. Now they are "??" and green respectively.
A friend who has been leasing a Mirai has been driving a rental car, on Toyotas dime, during much of the shortage.
FWIW, the one near my work that I pass by when I'm at the office is the Campbell (not East Hamilton) one. Maybe that explains why there was one fueling + 3 in the queue (2 of them waiting in the street) near midnight...
LOL on the later. I still keep wondering if Toyota honestly thinks this is a good idea from the R&D, production costs, up to $15K of included fuel, having to rent out cars/pay for them vs. the CA ZEV credits they're getting. Presumably, they're are similar incentives/reasons in some of the other places they're selling/leasing these?
Seems crazy considering how few H2 FCEVs there are running around in CA to begin with... They seem to barely sell/lease any of them in the US. Example numbers at Toyota Motor North America Reports U.S. June and First Half 2021 Sales - Toyota USA Newsroom and Toyota Motor North America Reports December 2020, Year-End Sales - Toyota USA Newsroom.
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