How to check Original battery capacity on MIC 2022 Model 3?

[yessuz]

How to check the battery capacity. I tried to look under the wheel arch on driver side - no label.

any other idea?

Found here:
Tesla Model 3 Long Range Dual Motor - LGM50 with 75 usable capacity (78 nominal). but it also states that the same car was delivered up to December 2021 (aka 2021 Model 3) with 75 nominal/72 usable

My Model 3 LR was delivered as one of the very first cars in UK for 2022 in February 2022 (so built most likely late December 2021, so it is interesting on which one I actually have :/

 

[Bouba]

I’ve had my MiC 2021 M3LR for two years and I have never found a battery label....however the info is in the vin

Tesla VIN Decoder - Model S, 3, X, Y

Use our Tesla VIN decoder to decode your Model S, 3, X or Y VIN right now! Use it for decoding all Tesla VINs, including Roadsters!

www.findmyelectric.com

Also the WLTP will give you a lot of clues...580 km will tell you it’s the 75 kWh LG for example

 

[yessuz]

I’ve had my MiC 2021 M3LR for two years and I have never found a battery label....however the info is in the vin

Tesla VIN Decoder - Model S, 3, X, Y

Use our Tesla VIN decoder to decode your Model S, 3, X or Y VIN right now! Use it for decoding all Tesla VINs, including Roadsters!

www.findmyelectric.com

Also the WLTP will give you a lot of clues...580 km will tell you it’s the 75 kWh LG for example

does not provide any info on the decoder :/

 

[Jason71]

How to check the battery capacity. I tried to look under the wheel arch on driver side - no label.

any other idea?

Found here:
Tesla Model 3 Long Range Dual Motor - LGM50 with 75 usable capacity (78 nominal). but it also states that the same car was delivered up to December 2021 (aka 2021 Model 3) with 75 nominal/72 usable

My Model 3 LR was delivered as one of the very first cars in UK for 2022 in February 2022 (so built most likely late December 2021, so it is interesting on which one I actually have :/

can you extrapolate it from the charge rate? I can tell that my MY has a larger battery than my old M3 purely because it takes longer to charge. M3 charged at almost exactly 10% per hour. MY is a bit less. obviously charging from 0 to 100 is tricky but if you charged 30-80 say and recorded how much energy the car reported added to the battery would that be accurate enough to tell?

 

[yessuz]

can you extrapolate it from the charge rate? I can tell that my MY has a larger battery than my old M3 purely because it takes longer to charge. M3 charged at almost exactly 10% per hour. MY is a bit less. obviously charging from 0 to 100 is tricky but if you charged 30-80 say and recorded how much energy the car reported added to the battery would that be accurate enough to tell?

well it depends on the charger and voltage.
pod point is 30 A / 7 kw. but if voltage drops, it sometimes shows 6 kw :/

it chargest about 9% per hour or so. but this is not the right way.

there should be SOMEWHERE either in car, car software or other indicator, which battery it is.

because I have very contradicting information online. and then it depends on the total original capacity wether my degradation is 5 or 2% :/

 

[Jason71]

well it depends on the charger and voltage.
pod point is 30 A / 7 kw. but if voltage drops, it sometimes shows 6 kw :/

it chargest about 9% per hour or so. but this is not the right way.

there should be SOMEWHERE either in car, car software or other indicator, which battery it is.

because I have very contradicting information online. and then it depends on the total original capacity wether my degradation is 5 or 2% :/

The car tells you how much is added in a charge session doesn't it? I was suggesting going with that figure rather than data from the charger.
but obviously yes a label that can be traced back to the battery size would be the best solution if you can find one...


Edit. BTW I use the Tessie app which claims to know that my original battery capacity is 78.5kwh. Not sure where it gets this from though? Says I have 2.2% on a 2022 MYLR

 

[yessuz]

The car tells you how much is added in a charge session doesn't it? I was suggesting going with that figure rather than data from the charger.
but obviously yes a label that can be traced back to the battery size would be the best solution if you can find one...


Edit. BTW I use the Tessie app which claims to know that my original battery capacity is 78.5kwh. Not sure where it gets this from though? Says I have 2.2% on a 2022 MYLR

yeah, the Teslamate says 79.

but that's the point - other places write that 78 kwh is nominal and usable is 75

if it is 79 kwh of usable, then my degradation is massive5% after 2 years/40k miles...

 

[Bouba]

How to check the battery capacity. I tried to look under the wheel arch on driver side - no label.

any other idea?

Found here:
Tesla Model 3 Long Range Dual Motor - LGM50 with 75 usable capacity (78 nominal). but it also states that the same car was delivered up to December 2021 (aka 2021 Model 3) with 75 nominal/72 usable

My Model 3 LR was delivered as one of the very first cars in UK for 2022 in February 2022 (so built most likely late December 2021, so it is interesting on which one I actually have :/

I don’t think that your information is correct...if you have the 75 LG...then 74.5 is usable

 

[Jason71]

yeah, the Teslamate says 79.

but that's the point - other places write that 78 kwh is nominal and usable is 75

if it is 79 kwh of usable, then my degradation is massive5% after 2 years/40k miles...

Degradation is not linear. Historically it tended to be the case that Tesla's often take a quick hit when new and lose 5% in the first year even with low mileage but then it levels out and you often go for a period losing very little so 5% after 2 years and 40K is not a surprise tbh. Tessie says I am on 2.2% after only 1 year and 13K miles so not that different to you.

 

[yessuz]

I don’t think that your information is correct...if you have the 75 LG...then 74.5 is usable

Well... for the link above in post #1:

"The specifications shown here are for the 2022 Tesla Model 3 LR with LG M50 (variant E5LD) battery pack"

and then below:

Battery​

Nominal Capacity	78.1 kWh
Battery Type	Lithium-ion
Number of Cells	4416
Architecture	400 V

Useable Capacity*	75.0 kWh
Cathode Material	NCM
Pack Configuration	96s46p
Nominal Voltage	357 V

As you see, it states that for 2022 M3 LR usable is 75 out of 78

 

[Bouba]

Well... for the link above in post #1:

"The specifications shown here are for the 2022 Tesla Model 3 LR with LG M50 (variant E5LD) battery pack"

and then below:

Battery​

Nominal Capacity	78.1 kWh
Battery Type	Lithium-ion
Number of Cells	4416
Architecture	400 V

Useable Capacity*	75.0 kWh
Cathode Material	NCM
Pack Configuration	96s46p
Nominal Voltage	357 V

As you see, it states that for 2022 M3 LR usable is 75 out of 78

I was talking about if you have the LG 75... not the 78
When you got the car, there would have been a WLTP sticker on the window....do you remember what was the range ?....do you remember the range at 100% in the car on the little battery display when the car was new ?

 

[yessuz]

I was talking about if you have the LG 75... not the 78
When you got the car, there would have been a WLTP sticker on the window....do you remember what was the range ?....do you remember the range at 100% in the car on the little battery display when the car was new ?

345 I think

but car was never charged to 100% when it was new or in the first year, I think

 

[Bouba]

345 I think

but car was never charged to 100% when it was new or in the first year, I think

345 miles at 100% ?

 

[yessuz]

345 miles at 100% ?

or maybe 350 something. :/ yes

 

[Bouba]

or maybe 350 something. :/ yes

Then it’s probably the bigger pack...the 79 kWh

 

[GeorgeSymonds]

I’ve found this:

Standard Range+ (or just "Model 3" from late 2021)

BT35 which is the Panasonic 53kWh battery with 2170 NCA cells, coded 1/1C
BT41 which is the Panasonic 55kWh battery with 2170L NCA cells, coded 1L
BTF0 which is the CATL LFP55 55kWh battery with Prismatic LFP cells, coded 6C
BTF1 which is the CATL LFP60 62kWh battery with Prismatic LFP cells, coded 6L

Long Range and Performance models
BT37 which is the Panasonic 53kWh battery with 2170 NCA cells, coded 1/1C
BT38 which is the LG Chem M48 75kWh battery with 2170 NMC cells, coded 5/5C
BT42 which is the Panasonic 82kWh battery with 2170L NCA cells, coded 3L
BT43 which is the LG Chem M50 79kWh battery with 2170 NMC cells, coded 5L

And it goes on to say

MT315 Long Range AWD
Produced: Fremont
Battery BT37 between VIN 815k and 880k (Oct 2020 and Dec 2020) for NA
Battery BT37 between VIN 2/15k and 2/98k (Jul 2021 and Nov 2021) for NA
Battery BT37 between VIN 815k and 917k (Oct 2020 and Mar 2021) for Europe
Battery BT37 between VIN 815k and 995k (Oct 2020 and Apr 2021) for APAC
The battery was the BT37 and built between Oct 2020 and Nov 2021 in Fremont. VIN numbers range from 815k, go through the VIN roll over and on to 98k. The cars were distributed to all markets, the US mainly until Dec 2020 / VIN 880k, with a handful between Jul and Nov 21. Europe and APAC had deliveries until March /April

The EPA range was 353 Miles or a WLTP 360 Miles/580km. It could do 0-60 mph in 4.2s, 0-100km/h 4.4s and had a top speed of 145mph or 233km/h

MT316 Long Range AWD
Produced: Fremont
Battery BT38 between VIN 817k and 944k (Oct 2020 and Apr 2021) for Europe
Produced: China
Battery BT38 between VIN 164k and 418k (Jan 2021 and Nov 2021) for Europe
Battery BT38 between VIN 164k and 359k (Jan 2021 and Aug 2021) for APAC
The battery was the BT38 and built in both Fremont and China. Fremont production was from Oct 2020, VIN 817k through to Apr 2021, VIN 944k and went to Europe. China production was between Jan 2021 and Nov 2021, VIN numbers range from 164k through to 418k and went to Europe. APAC also had China produced cars although these stopped in Aug 2021. No cars went to NA.

The WLTP range was 360 Miles/580km. It could do 0-60 mph in 4.2s, 0-100km/h 4.4s and had a top speed of 145mph or 233km/h

MT321 Long Range AWD
Produced: Fremont
Battery BT42 between VIN 900k and 2/149k (Feb 2021 and Jan 2022) for NA
Battery BT42 between VIN 900k and 973k (Feb 2021 and May 2021) for Europe in LHD
Battery BT42 between VIN 900k and 973k (Feb 2021 and May 2021) for APAC in small numbers.
The battery was the BT42 and built in Fremont. Production was from Feb 2021, VIN 900k through the VIN roll over and on to Jan 2022, VIN 149k, although few cars seem to have been built after Oct 2021 and VIN 2/94k. Most cars went to NA, with some LHD cars going to Europe up until May 2021 and VIN 973k. A handful of cars also found there way to APAC.

The EPA range was 353 Miles/568km, the WLTP rating was 614km. It could do 0-60 mph in 4.2s, 0-100km/h 4.4s and had a top speed of 145mph or 233km/h

MT323 Long Range AWD
Produced: China
Battery BT43 between VIN 383k and 345k (Oct 2021 and Nov 2021) for Europe
Battery BT43 between VIN 383k and 345k (Oct 2021 and Nov 2021) for APAC
The battery was the BT43 and built in China and was fairly short lived. China production was from Oct 2021, VIN 383k through to Nov 2021, VIN 345k. Cars went to Europe and APAC in both LHD and RHD form.

The WLTP rating was 614km. It could do 0-60 mph in 4.2s, 0-100km/h 4.4s and had a top speed of 145mph or 233km/h

MT324 Long Range AWD
Produced: Fremont
Battery BT42 between VIN 2/100k and 2/392k (Nov 2021 and Nov 2022) for NA
The battery was the BT42 and built in Fremont. Production was from Nov 2021, VIN 100k through to Nov 2022, VIN 392k, although most production stopped in Sept 2022 at VIN 350k. Cars went to NA, with a few cars going to APAC.

The WLTP rating was 614km. It could do 0-60 mph in 4.2s, 0-100km/h 4.4s and had a top speed of 145mph or 233km/h

MT328 Long Range AWD
Produced: China
Battery BT43 between VIN 430k and continues (Nov 2021 onwards) for Europe
Battery BT43 between VIN 430k and continues (Nov 2021 onwards) for APAC
The battery was the BT43 and built in China. Production was from Nov 2021, VIN 430k and continues. Cars went to Europe and APAC.

The WLTP rating was 374 miles. It could do 0-60 mph in 4.2s, 0-100km/h 4.4s and had a top speed of 145mph or 233km/h


There looks to be lots of versions depending where you are but I think you can find your MT3xx number by looking at the html on myTesla once you’ve selected your car.

 

[MrT3]

or maybe 350 something. :/ yes

That’s a 79 kWh pack then, the 75 kWh shows around 330 to 340 at 100%. M3LR with the larger packs started arriving in the last batch of Q4 in 2021 (mid December).

 

[yessuz]

I’ve found this:

Standard Range+ (or just "Model 3" from late 2021)

BT35 which is the Panasonic 53kWh battery with 2170 NCA cells, coded 1/1C
BT41 which is the Panasonic 55kWh battery with 2170L NCA cells, coded 1L
BTF0 which is the CATL LFP55 55kWh battery with Prismatic LFP cells, coded 6C
BTF1 which is the CATL LFP60 62kWh battery with Prismatic LFP cells, coded 6L

Long Range and Performance models
BT37 which is the Panasonic 53kWh battery with 2170 NCA cells, coded 1/1C
BT38 which is the LG Chem M48 75kWh battery with 2170 NMC cells, coded 5/5C
BT42 which is the Panasonic 82kWh battery with 2170L NCA cells, coded 3L
BT43 which is the LG Chem M50 79kWh battery with 2170 NMC cells, coded 5L

And it goes on to say

MT315 Long Range AWD
Produced: Fremont
Battery BT37 between VIN 815k and 880k (Oct 2020 and Dec 2020) for NA
Battery BT37 between VIN 2/15k and 2/98k (Jul 2021 and Nov 2021) for NA
Battery BT37 between VIN 815k and 917k (Oct 2020 and Mar 2021) for Europe
Battery BT37 between VIN 815k and 995k (Oct 2020 and Apr 2021) for APAC
The battery was the BT37 and built between Oct 2020 and Nov 2021 in Fremont. VIN numbers range from 815k, go through the VIN roll over and on to 98k. The cars were distributed to all markets, the US mainly until Dec 2020 / VIN 880k, with a handful between Jul and Nov 21. Europe and APAC had deliveries until March /April

The EPA range was 353 Miles or a WLTP 360 Miles/580km. It could do 0-60 mph in 4.2s, 0-100km/h 4.4s and had a top speed of 145mph or 233km/h

MT316 Long Range AWD
Produced: Fremont
Battery BT38 between VIN 817k and 944k (Oct 2020 and Apr 2021) for Europe
Produced: China
Battery BT38 between VIN 164k and 418k (Jan 2021 and Nov 2021) for Europe
Battery BT38 between VIN 164k and 359k (Jan 2021 and Aug 2021) for APAC
The battery was the BT38 and built in both Fremont and China. Fremont production was from Oct 2020, VIN 817k through to Apr 2021, VIN 944k and went to Europe. China production was between Jan 2021 and Nov 2021, VIN numbers range from 164k through to 418k and went to Europe. APAC also had China produced cars although these stopped in Aug 2021. No cars went to NA.

The WLTP range was 360 Miles/580km. It could do 0-60 mph in 4.2s, 0-100km/h 4.4s and had a top speed of 145mph or 233km/h

MT321 Long Range AWD
Produced: Fremont
Battery BT42 between VIN 900k and 2/149k (Feb 2021 and Jan 2022) for NA
Battery BT42 between VIN 900k and 973k (Feb 2021 and May 2021) for Europe in LHD
Battery BT42 between VIN 900k and 973k (Feb 2021 and May 2021) for APAC in small numbers.
The battery was the BT42 and built in Fremont. Production was from Feb 2021, VIN 900k through the VIN roll over and on to Jan 2022, VIN 149k, although few cars seem to have been built after Oct 2021 and VIN 2/94k. Most cars went to NA, with some LHD cars going to Europe up until May 2021 and VIN 973k. A handful of cars also found there way to APAC.

The EPA range was 353 Miles/568km, the WLTP rating was 614km. It could do 0-60 mph in 4.2s, 0-100km/h 4.4s and had a top speed of 145mph or 233km/h

MT323 Long Range AWD
Produced: China
Battery BT43 between VIN 383k and 345k (Oct 2021 and Nov 2021) for Europe
Battery BT43 between VIN 383k and 345k (Oct 2021 and Nov 2021) for APAC
The battery was the BT43 and built in China and was fairly short lived. China production was from Oct 2021, VIN 383k through to Nov 2021, VIN 345k. Cars went to Europe and APAC in both LHD and RHD form.

The WLTP rating was 614km. It could do 0-60 mph in 4.2s, 0-100km/h 4.4s and had a top speed of 145mph or 233km/h

MT324 Long Range AWD
Produced: Fremont
Battery BT42 between VIN 2/100k and 2/392k (Nov 2021 and Nov 2022) for NA
The battery was the BT42 and built in Fremont. Production was from Nov 2021, VIN 100k through to Nov 2022, VIN 392k, although most production stopped in Sept 2022 at VIN 350k. Cars went to NA, with a few cars going to APAC.

The WLTP rating was 614km. It could do 0-60 mph in 4.2s, 0-100km/h 4.4s and had a top speed of 145mph or 233km/h

MT328 Long Range AWD
Produced: China
Battery BT43 between VIN 430k and continues (Nov 2021 onwards) for Europe
Battery BT43 between VIN 430k and continues (Nov 2021 onwards) for APAC
The battery was the BT43 and built in China. Production was from Nov 2021, VIN 430k and continues. Cars went to Europe and APAC.

The WLTP rating was 374 miles. It could do 0-60 mph in 4.2s, 0-100km/h 4.4s and had a top speed of 145mph or 233km/h


There looks to be lots of versions depending where you are but I think you can find your MT3xx number by looking at the html on myTesla once you’ve selected your car.

yeah... so there are a lot of variants, depending when produced and such.

 

[GeorgeSymonds]

yeah... so there are a lot of variants, depending when produced and such.

There is, but having just had chance to try it, if the car is on your account, log into your account on a PC or Mac, then use the link below which a well known one when you're waiting for delivery, but also works here:

https://www.tesla.com/teslaaccount/oxp-bff-api/user-orders

And you;'ll get your car config.. my MY is:

...options=$APBS,$DV4W,$INPW0,$PPSW,$PRMY1,$SC04,$MDLY,$WY19B,$MTY09,$STY5S,$CPF1,$FM3U,$DRRH&bkba_opt=1","orderStatus":"DELIVERED","ord

So I have a MTY09

Looking at the equivalent text for the MY, I have:

MTY09 Model Y Long Range AWD
Produced: China and Berlin
BT43 Battery was used
Built in China from Sept 2021 and still in production
Built in Berlin from Jul 2022 and still in production
China cars were for Europe and APAC markets
Berlin cars were for Europe only, and LHD form only
331 Miles/533km WLTP, 0-60 mph 4.8s, 0-100km/h 5.0s, 135mph, 217km/h
While the Fremont production was getting the BT37 then BT42 batteries, China production for Europe and APAC were getting the BT38 for a while before changing to the BT43 battery (using a differnet model code).

So based on that, mine was the BT43 battery. It seems to take the guess work out.

 

[init6]

345 I think

but car was never charged to 100% when it was new or in the first year, I think

Bear in mind that Teslamate (et al) need good charging data at the start of your ownership to better calculate degradation.
IMHO it's just a guess.