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So, appearance over utility. Got it. Disagree, but understand your point.Everything is still there, just in different places. This kinda reminds me when my wife moved the knife block in the kitchen from the left of my range to inside a cabinet. At first I was like “where the F are they”. Now I know the locaction and the kitchen counters look a little more uncluttered.
first of all, much less than half of what they do in their updates are forward progress or real improvements.We will get used to the changes (good or bad.) We will need to adapt.
But I myself am confident Tesla will do the right thing. And yes - they do take feedback from their customers. They will continue to improve.
Do you know of another car company that has improvements on a monthly if not weekly basis?
Yea, thats fine if you’re home eating take out all the time. Try hiding the knives in any professional kitchen and you’d be getting reprimanded by the head chef.So, appearance over utility. Got it. Disagree, but understand your point.
My wife is the head chef in our householdYea, thats fine if you’re home eating take out all the time. Try hiding the knives in any professional kitchen and you’d be getting reprimanded by the head chef.
How? I was driving yesterday after pickup up a hot pizza and the cabin started steaming up QUICKLY. It became a dangerous situation and since I didn't train myself in where this button is, I couldn't find the thing for a couple very important seconds.The defrost functions are automatic so no need for button there.
It does dismiss indeed some of our gripes. A lot of people say "just use the voice command if you can't find the new location".Now, I'm in the Tesla and was getting frustrated about reaching over to punch through menus because I forgot where something was...then I hit the button, said what I wanted...and it worked, every time (except when out of range).
I think it's a matter of relearning driving and interacting with a car. And I'm not dismissing anyone elses gripes. I understand.
The Tesla voice commands have always been the easiest way to access many of the Tesla vehicle functions. Learn a dozen or so of the voice commands and this will enhance the user experience as you interact with the Tesla vehicle.
"Show odometer"The Tesla voice commands have always been the easiest way to access many of the Tesla vehicle functions. Learn a dozen or so of the voice commands and this will enhance the user experience as you interact with the Tesla vehicle.
Correct; with V11 you have to get a little creative with the voice commands. "Tire Pressure" no longer works but "Display Service Settings" will show you the Service settings screen with the tire pressure readouts. Clearly V11 is not ready for Prime Time. Tesla needs to add widgets for additional functions including Sentry mode, LTE, BT, Wipers, Headlights, Defroster, Seat Heaters, Charge and other settings. The UI needs to be able to display more than 4 selected widget controls at a time. There needs to be an option to always display one of the Trips odometers (Current Trip/Drive, Since Last Charge, Trip A, Trip B (Lifetime)) underneath the vehicle graphic, as with the previous software version.Used to be a voice command for checking tire pressures. Now there isn't. Wonder how many other voice commands are gone? You'd think they would be adding commands to compensate for "cleaning up" the screen by burying things. But the light show is kind of fun . . . once.
The voice command "Tire Pressure" no longer works in V11. Instead, you can use the voice command "Display Service Settings."Lock/Unlock Doors
Open Glove Box
Mirrors - Fold/Unfold Mirrors
Sentry Mode - Keep Tesla Safe / Keep Summer Safe (for Rick & Morty fans)
Charging - Open Charge Port (also Open Butt Hole)
Wipers - Wipers On/Off/Low/Medium/Hi/1/2/3/4/Auto; Faster/Slower/Max/Min
Tire Pressure
Climate Control - Open/Close Climate Controls
Climate Control - Recirculate (cabin air) / Fresh Air
Climate Control - I'm Cold/I'm Hot
Climate Control - Turn Off/On H VAC
Climate Control - Split/Sync/Unsync Climate Control
Climate Control - Keep Climate On / (Dog Mode?)
Climate Control - Increase/Decrease Temperature X Degrees
Climate Control - My Feet are Cold / Hot
Climate Control - Set Fan to X/Auto
Music - Play Artist/Album/Song/Radio Station
Navigation - Navigate to Work/Home/McDonald's/Airport; Go Home
V10.2 Tesla Voice Commands
Oh yeah Tesla takes customers feedback? Never heard of that. Is there a form on their website that I’m missing? A survey sent by email that went straight to my spam? Their PR/Marketing department is a department of 1 and he loves tweeting about dogecoin, I’m not sure how Tesla would take feedback…This new Tesla version 11 reminds me of Microsoft's Windows.
Window 95 - my first real experience with Windows - loved it. Very stable and useful.
Window 98 - good improvement, and still very stable - got used to it in short order.
Windows ME - great big failure - more of a headache that anything - just plain sucked! Converted most ME systems back to 98.
Windows XP - They had to do something to correct the failure of ME - absolutely superb and stable - by far my favorite OS that Microsoft put out. A lot of casino machines and point of sales still use the XP os.
Windows Vista - pulled my hair out - bad, bad, bad. Converted most Vista machines back to XP.
Windows 7 - very stable but took a lot of time to get used to.
Windows 8 - back to sucking again.
Windows 8.1 - corrected some of the mistakes made by Windows 8 - but still bad. To hard to convert back to Windows 7.
Windows 10 - tried to fix a bunch of problems the Windows 8 and 8.1 created - tried to make it more like Windows 7.
Windows 11 - to new and a little obscure. Undetermined outcome - to early to tell.
Still to this day I use older machines that will support Windows 7 - I guess it has to remain as a
'favorite,' and I will stick with it until the bitter end.
So --- to sum it up:
My Model Y has had numerous updates since I took delivery back in March.
Tesla does not give us the option to keep any particular OS. It's just not in cards.
We will get used to the changes (good or bad.) We will need to adapt.
But I myself am confident Tesla will do the right thing. And yes - they do take feedback from their customers. They will continue to improve.
Do you know of another car company that has improvements on a monthly if not weekly basis?
How? I was driving yesterday after pickup up a hot pizza and the cabin started steaming up QUICKLY. It became a dangerous situation and since I didn't train myself in where this button is, I couldn't find the thing for a couple very important seconds.
Sure, it wasn't where I knew it to be- and sure I'll get used to to... But don't try to argue that putting it in a tap away in the HVAC controls is more intuitive than always on the screen. It's hidden now. It clearly didn't take up too much space- it was replaced with dead space. It's just taken away and left blank! Plenty instances of this- profiles, dashcam record, wifi and Bluetooth status. Nothing took the space in turn. It's just gone. Did we really need that 3/8" of real estate at the top of the map? Of course not. This update is full of thoughtlessness. Like placing the blind spot camera behind where you are likely to place your hands on the wheel. A blind, Blindspot camera. Genius. It also looks like an afterthought (because it was) and hastily slapped in there. No polish or elegance as to how it's displayed. Or, if the map is blocked by a full screen app- like if you want to see the odometer now that cards are gone- the small indicator for your next turn has moved from above the car to below it. Where the blind spot camera is. Where you are likely to rest your hand. To see the arrow for your turn, I have to duck and tilt my head to the right. Why was it moved down there? What was the problem with where it was, at a glance, next to the speed that I keep my eye on. Nothing is there instead- it's like someone who codded this on a desktop and never sat behind the wheel decided this.
I like the dock at the bottom, but it was done with no sense at all. I'm given a pick of about 15 or so things, 2 I might ever want docked. Why is it so limited? Why only 4? There is room for way more. Why can't I assign a shortcut for the odometer, or dash cam record? Anything on the screen that can be tapped should be able to be dragged down there. Seriously, if I want to drag my favorite taco joint from the map down there- I should be able to have a Taco Button. If I want to have my favorite Czarface track always available literally at the push of a button- I should be able to do that as sure as I'd be able to have a button for Megaphone right there in my customizable dock. Other than the complexity of the task (my MINI Cooper that I just gave up does this...) I have no idea why it wasn't done this way. The implementation is beyond poor. I'll never use FM radio. Why do I ever have to see it? I removed it, Caraoke and other things I'll not use in the last interface. We've just been given less option under the guise of "customization".
I hope there are a lot of updates that fix this utter nonsense, and soon. The good news is that it appears the vast majority have the same complaints here, giving me hope it can be addressed. The important part is that we are all providing our criticism. To the chap who glibly stated "first world problems". I assume the implication is that we should shut up and deal with it. That's absolutely the wrong way to think about it. If we don't speak up and provide constructive criticism, how will things be addressed and solved? That attitude is completely silly. As is this update.
It does dismiss indeed some of our gripes. A lot of people say "just use the voice command if you can't find the new location".
A big complaint for many is the tire pressure and odometer. Go ahead and try "show my odometer". Neither work. At all.
There is also no Internet where I live for the first few miles after I leave my wifi. So if the team had even tried to make sure the voice command works for crap they changed- it still wouldn't reliably work.
Good luck getting voice commands to work when children are in the backseat.The Tesla voice commands have always been the easiest way to access many of the Tesla vehicle functions. Learn a dozen or so of the voice commands and this will enhance the user experience as you interact with the Tesla vehicle.
The voice command "Tire Pressure" no longer works in V11. Instead, you can use the voice command "Display Service Settings."
That is sooo intuitive. Does the ‘open butthole’ still work? That is another example of intuition and a great sense of humor.The Tesla voice commands have always been the easiest way to access many of the Tesla vehicle functions. Learn a dozen or so of the voice commands and this will enhance the user experience as you interact with the Tesla vehicle.
The voice command "Tire Pressure" no longer works in V11. Instead, you can use the voice command "Display Service Settings."