Fukuta supply role to Tesla

[Yggdrasill]

"Servo motor" means a motor for fans, pumps, valves, etc. Maybe something related to the thermal management system.

 

[ecarfan]

@Avenger has made this claim multiple times on the past on TMC and every time it has been thoroughly refuted. Search the forums and you will find the discussions.

Are you claiming they supply the entire motor, entire drive unit including inverter, or just some handy motor parts that Tesla uses in building their own motors and drive units?

Where is the evidence for exactly what "motor parts" consist of?

 

[esk8mw]

No I'm using super long dated PUTS - no pain here. ;-)

Much like your knowledge of how electric motors work, your knowledge of how derivatives work needs some....work.

 

[Johan]

Before anyone engages please see:

Fukuta supply role to Tesla

 

[Avenger]

AC Induction servo - AC stands for Alternation current - the only AC or alternating current motor in a Tesla is the drive unit.

Fukuta specializes in this special ac induction servo motor - which is light weight and generates tremendous amount of torque.

 

[Avenger]

Much like your knowledge of how electric motors work, your knowledge of how derivatives work needs some....work.

Ok, please explain to me what type of drive motor Tesla uses.... ;-)

 

[Avenger]

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@Avenger has made this claim multiple times on the past on TMC and every time it has been thoroughly refuted. Search the forums and you will find the discussions.

New data... even more motors shipped from Fukuta to Tesla Motors in 2016.... tons and tons.
Regards

 

[stopcrazypp]

Didn't we already have a long thread where this had been thoroughly refuted? Fukuta is supplying motor parts to Tesla (that is what all the BOLs you linked says), but the motors are made and assembled in Tesla's factory.

Does this need another separate thread?

 

[Avenger]

Before anyone engages please see:

Fukuta supply role to Tesla

Johan, Can you explain tons and tons of motors from Fukuta to Tesla Motors?

Then Bill of Lading data from Port of Long Beach with desciption of AC Induction motors
Tesla Motors, Inc. imports from Fukuta Electric & Machinery Co.,Ltd | Customs Trade Data

Tesla Motors, Inc. imports from Fukuta Electric & Machinery Co.,Ltd | Customs Trade Data


Tesla Motors, Inc. imports from Fukuta Electric & Machinery Co., | Customs Trade Data

 

[Johan]

Johan, Can you explain tons and tons of motors from Fukuta to Tesla Motors?

Then Bill of Lading data from Port of Long Beach with desciption of AC Induction motors
Tesla Motors, Inc. imports from Fukuta Electric & Machinery Co.,Ltd | Customs Trade Data

Tesla Motors, Inc. imports from Fukuta Electric & Machinery Co.,Ltd | Customs Trade Data


Tesla Motors, Inc. imports from Fukuta Electric & Machinery Co., | Customs Trade Data

Can you, since you started the thread?

 

[Avenger]

Can you, since you started the thread?

Tesla Motors drive unit or motor was designed by Fukuta - all motors and motor parts come from Fukuta, Tesla Motors did not designe the motor in the Model S or X or the planned Model 3.

Fukuta is not in the business of selling part of a motor... only complete motors.

 

[Yggdrasill]

Johan, Can you explain tons and tons of motors from Fukuta to Tesla Motors

The Model S contains dozens of different servo motors. Can you explain why you think the motors Fukuta supply have anything to do with the drive unit?

 

[stopcrazypp]

Johan, Can you explain tons and tons of motors from Fukuta to Tesla Motors?

Then Bill of Lading data from Port of Long Beach with desciption of AC Induction motors
Tesla Motors, Inc. imports from Fukuta Electric & Machinery Co.,Ltd | Customs Trade Data

Tesla Motors, Inc. imports from Fukuta Electric & Machinery Co.,Ltd | Customs Trade Data


Tesla Motors, Inc. imports from Fukuta Electric & Machinery Co., | Customs Trade Data

This is the exact same large industrial motors that we discussed last time (note the unit count and weight).

1st Shipment: 2 AC Induction Servo motors each weighing 1283 kg taking up a 40 ft long container.
2nd Shipment: 960 motors parts (stators) taking up 2 containers. 1 AC Induction Servo motor taking up a separate full 40 ft long container .
3rd Shipment: 1 AC Induction Servo motor weighing 431 kg taking up a 40ft long container.

I already addressed why these are not Model S/X motors (hint: Model S/X motors are not servo motors, don't weigh more than 400kg and don't take up an entire shipping container).
Fukuta supply role to Tesla

Last time you failed to address these points. If you fail to address them this time again, I will also assume you are completely wrong about your assertion that these are assembled Model S/X motors.

 

[Avenger]

The AC Induction servo design by Fukuta is for maximum torque - AC stands for alternating current - there is no other need for a alternating current motor on a Model S or X than the drive motor.

All other accessory motors on a tesla are direct current motors - just like on an ICE.

See Fukuta milestones 1993 -2001 , here FUKUTA ELEC. & MACH. CO, LTD.

 

[Johan]

Mr. Expert on motors: How much does the the Model S/X rear and front motor weigh, respectively, per motor?

 

[Jeff N]

I dislike "dislike" buttons so I won't use one here but these repeated claims do not appear credible.

 

[jtg]

An uneducated guess: could they be industrial motors for one of the factory machines?

 

[Avenger]

Mr. Expert on motors: How much does the the Model S/X rear and front motor weigh, respectively, per motor?

Fukuta - servo motors used in ev super cars -

 

[Avenger]

An uneducated guess: could they be industrial motors for one of the factory machines?

NO - Fukuta says on their web site - motors used in super cars and well known EVS

 

[Kalud]

Must be noted again and again, the motors are made in-house, but Tesla uses many suppliers for parts. The rotor is most likely made by Fukuta, but not the entire Drive-Unit, not the actual Stator which is a more sensitive part to build.

See that video start at 3m50s: