FSD subscription - Q2

[DaveW]

Elon didn’t say which year though

 

[goRt]

So not February then

 

[Type2]

When the Musk says “for sure” it actually means “maybe”.

 

[KennethS]

He also didn't say it would be worldwide or initially available only in certain countries (eg USA only).

 

[Rustybkts]

How can buying FSD be better than leasing it when you never actually own it?

It is a lot of money that hopefully stays with the car but does it? When you sell it can we be sure it is transferred to the next owner and if you part ex to Tesla, they are liable to delete it from the car when re-selling so hardly going to pay the extra in the part ex price are they.

 

[KennethS]

How can buying FSD be better than leasing it when you never actually own it?

It is a lot of money that hopefully stays with the car but does it? When you sell it can we be sure it is transferred to the next owner and if you part ex to Tesla, they are liable to delete it from the car when re-selling so hardly going to pay the extra in the part ex price are they.

If the car is sold to a third party it stays with the car. If the car is sold to Tesla, they can do what they want with their (after they buy it) car and leave or remove it before selling it on. If they don't appropriately adjust the price they offer for a car with FSD then it may be better selling it to someone else.

 

[phil4]

My car's on PCP, so no real value to me buying it in it's present state, and long odds on it being improved enough to be worthwhile for long enough too. So rental makes a lot of sense.

But I notice he doesn't give a year, so I'd not be holding your breath.

 

[JupiterMan]

He also didn't say it would be worldwide or initially available only in certain countries (eg USA only).

Personally I doubt subscription will be available in UK until City Streets (i.e. current FSD beta) is released here also.

 

[MrBadger]

Tesla FSD Subscription Could Come in Q2

 

[SpareHeadOne]

How can buying FSD be better than leasing it when you never actually own it?

We're going to find out how long Tesla think you are likely to keep the car for. Four years and £150/month would be worse value than buying AP outright, three years and it's £190/month.

TBH, on a long journey I might consider activating it for a month at £150 when it works in the UK, but I wouldn't bother day-to-day. More than that then I'd just do the driving.

I strongly suspect they're looking more towards the £250-300/month bracket in which case I'll never go for it.

 

[JupiterMan]

We're going to find out how long Tesla think you are likely to keep the car for. Four years and £150/month would be worse value than buying AP outright, three years and it's £190/month.

TBH, on a long journey I might consider activating it for a month at £150 when it works in the UK, but I wouldn't bother day-to-day. More than that then I'd just do the driving.

I strongly suspect they're looking more towards the £250-300/month bracket in which case I'll never go for it.

through salary sacrifice my net cost for FSD is only £88 per month over a three year lease.

 

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What info did you send them? I can imagine all non-US applications for the FSD-Beta will just be ignored, but do Tesla have a UK/European Early Access Program?

 

[SpareHeadOne]

through salary sacrifice my net cost for FSD is only £88 per month over a three year lease.

Interesting, I guess the leasing company are factoring the value of FSD into the future value of the car. I wonder if Tesla will?

 

[GeorgeSymonds]

Worth remembering his FSD timescales aren't the most reliable... this was from over 4 years ago..

 

[browellm]

American date formats should be purged with holy fire.

 

[Dilly]

American date formats should be purged with holy fire.

Oh. Is that a date? I thought it was Elon’s estimate accuracy scores out of 100 from 3 judges

 

[Medved_77]

American date formats should be purged with holy fire.

Comprehensive map of all countries that use the MMDDYYYY date format:

I'm an ISO 8601 type of guy myself.

 

[Thunderbird1]

What info did you send them? I can imagine all non-US applications for the FSD-Beta will just be ignored, but do Tesla have a UK/European Early Access Program?

Vin Number/ Registration of Car /FSD date of purchase

 

[nightowl]

Comprehensive map of all countries that use the MMDDYYYY date format:

I'm an ISO 8601 type of guy myself.

Woo! It's not just me then. Works particularly well for filenames because alphabetical sorting gives things in date order automatically.

Makes logical sense when you look at how time is formatted (biggest unit to smallest.)

I've joked that because of MM/DD/YYYY perhaps we should start using MM:HH:SS as a time format.