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Wiki Everything you wanted to know about Intelligent Octopus But Were Afraid To Ask

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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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The issue with this approach is if there are a load of high carbon intensity slots early in a schedule and the system thinks you need a massive charge (it doesn't read your SoC with EVSE integration), then all that's happening is that you are charging unintelligently, just like regular Go.

Why does it matter? its still within T&C's and the slots are given regardless... IE. slots are given way beyond a 100kw battery all the time even though the biggest battery is my model Y which is what IOG is setup for....Dont blame the player....besides, I have 5 cars to charge here, all bar two with different size batteries and we dont all have a degree in mathematics or working a calculator at the point of plugging in :)
 
I think some last night may have had a touch too much sun, excited by Eurovision and/or the solar flare is typing random messages for them.

Communication is a 2 way process, if somebody doesn’t understand a cryptic post it’s great if it’s explained in words people understand, it may take an extra paragraph, but you either want to help others or you din’t. By “signature” are we referring to “carbon footprint” for instance? I’m struggling to understand the points being made

Edited to add some posts have been moved to snippiness
 
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Well I've switched to octopus and then switched to intelligent by using my zappi and received a schedule but it has kicked in the charge as i have a 30min window currently.

I've got the zappi in eco+ mode but I did this after the test as it never said I should do that during the test.

Any ideas?
 
Make note off your window/windows now and then unplug, leave for about 5 minutes (even though a minute should suffice) and plug in again. If correct, your slots will have changed slightly from your start time at least.
I actually nipped out and unplugged and plugged it back in.
In the tesla app it says charger error no power
In the octopus app my windows changed slightly but basically have cheap rate from now until 6:30am and nothing is happening
 
I actually nipped out and unplugged and plugged it back in.
In the tesla app it says charger error no power
In the octopus app my windows changed slightly but basically have cheap rate from now until 6:30am and nothing is happening
That sound good. Error no power is normal... Charger will have a delay of up to ten minutes (probably tell you that on the myenergy app if you open it)
 
That sound good. Error no power is normal... Charger will have a delay of up to ten minutes (probably tell you that on the myenergy app if you open it)
Opened my engergy app and just says waiting. Have it in eco+ mode, charge rate is at the default of 50 and boost settings has scheduled tab selected but no schedule.

I'm 20mins into my latest window with octopus. Not looking good to me.

Still says charging error. No power and noticed says 16a instead of 32a.
 
Still says charging error. No power and noticed says 16a instead of 32a.

It normally starts low and then ramps up as to gauge what your charger has to offer. If nothing happens in ten minutes, just delete and restart your onboard again albeit it all seems normal to me.

Zappi uses a diferent way to connect to IOG than Wallbox (The one I use) does.. the errors you describe tesla side look standard to me though (on both zappi and wallbox)

Also, make sure any schedules are off as per instructions.
 
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