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Wiki Everything you wanted to know about Intelligent Octopus But Were Afraid To Ask

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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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I've toyed with the idea of changing from Tesla integration to reinstalling IOG as Zappi controlled.

However I believe I would lose the ability to just set a target SOC and would instead have to calculate how much % I want to add each time? The current arrangement just seems so simple and it's worked every time for all the years I've been on this tariff.

We do have two EVs but charging the second is infrequent & for much of the year it's using excess solar generation. So unless someone can give me a really compelling reason to switch from the 'original' IO method I still don't see the need.
 
I've toyed with the idea of changing from Tesla integration to reinstalling IOG as Zappi controlled.

However I believe I would lose the ability to just set a target SOC and would instead have to calculate how much % I want to add each time? The current arrangement just seems so simple and it's worked every time for all the years I've been on this tariff.

We do have two EVs but charging the second is infrequent & for much of the year it's using excess solar generation. So unless someone can give me a really compelling reason to switch from the 'original' IO method I still don't see the need.
The main positive of using the Zappi integration (aside from it being more reliable) is the way it plays nice with surplus solar charging. You can just plug in and it’ll charge off surplus during the day and the remainder of what you asked for overnight. If you’re happy with the reliability of the Tesla integration and you have no need for surplus solar charging, you won’t see much, if any, benefit from the Zappi integration.
 
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The main positive of using the Zappi integration (aside from it being more reliable) is the way it plays nice with surplus solar charging. You can just plug in and it’ll charge off surplus during the day and the remainder of what you asked for overnight. If you’re happy with the reliability of the Tesla integration and you have no need for surplus solar charging, you won’t see much, if any, benefit from the Zappi integration.
Solar charging is dead for the time being on IOG and Octopus outgoing. There's no point when you can import for 7.5p and export at 15p
 
I’ve been using the Zappi IO integration since it first became available and have found it the best way to go about it. Just bear in mind you are setting a % of charge to add, not a charge limit. So don’t just leave it on 80% if you only need 20 or 30%.
What do you mean with this?

Im currently switching to octopus and then will be moving to their intelligent tarrif and wondering best way to configure it as I have a model y and a zappi.

Im just wanting mine to be fully charged by the end of the 23:30 to 5:30 period you get as standard and if plugged in outside that time and a cheap offering comes up then fire away. Or am I not understanding it correctly.
 
Im just wanting mine to be fully charged by the end of the 23:30 to 5:30 period you get as standard and if plugged in outside that time and a cheap offering comes up then fire away. Or am I not understanding it correctly.
I just have it set 100% and ready by 7am (I actually get a slot up to 7am every day but that will depend on your area) ... My Mrs LFP car will charge to 100% and mine will charge to 80% (as per what is set on the car). That is the way it’s always been set and I never have to touch it.

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I just have it set 100% and ready by 7am (I actually get a slot up to 7am every day but that will depend on your area) ... My Mrs LFP car will charge to 100% and mine will charge to 80% (as per what is set on the car). That is the way it’s always been set and I never have to touch it.

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Is that yours linked with the zappi or cars? With you having two cars.
 
I have a Zappi but integrated with the car. Never missed a beat. We do have a lot of export solar generation but it's more sensible to push that to the grid than charge the car currently. Should that change, I'll review the Zappi integration.
 
We do have a lot of export solar generation but it's more sensible to push that to the grid than charge the car currently. Should that change, I'll review the Zappi integration.

I get that if it's not broken dont fix it but Im intrigued by the comment. Do you think that should you integrate the Zappi it will change the dynamics of your solar export ?
 
I get that if it's not broken dont fix it but Im intrigued by the comment. Do you think that should you integrate the Zappi it will change the dynamics of your solar export ?
Sorry, I wasn't too clear. Basically I hardly ever solar charge as it doesn't make sense with current export rate. So I don't call on ECO+ on the Zappi and hence the IOG/car integration doesn't need changed for now, particularly as it's working nicely.
 
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Sorry, I wasn't too clear. Basically I hardly ever solar charge as it doesn't make sense with current export rate. So I don't call on ECO+ on the Zappi and hence the IOG/car integration doesn't need changed for now, particularly as it's working nicely.

Thats ok. I just didn't want some people to think that integrating the zappi with IOG would cause a detrimental effect to the solar export instead of the car integration.

My daughter pops around twice a week and charges her car during the day. Tbh I begrudge it when its sunny but I rather her charge here than charge at public chargers at much more expensive rates.
 
I just have it set 100% and ready by 7am (I actually get a slot up to 7am every day but that will depend on your area) ... My Mrs LFP car will charge to 100% and mine will charge to 80% (as per what is set on the car). That is the way it’s always been set and I never have to touch it.

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Leaving “Charge to add” at 100% all the time, irrespective of how much charge your vehicle actually needs will eventually lead to you attracting the attention of OE who will likely stop you from gaining any extra slots. You are abusing the system.
 
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The issue with this approach is if there are a load of high carbon intensity slots early in a schedule and the system thinks you need a massive charge (it doesn't read your SoC with EVSE integration), then all that's happening is that you are charging unintelligently, just like regular Go.
 
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