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Yes, it appears I was spreading urban-myth; there is no mandate to supply replacement parts aside from Magnusson-Moss. So Tesla would have to have parts available for the battery and drive units (drive train) for 8 years and all other parts for 4 years after the last Model Y is sold.
 
Yes, it appears I was spreading urban-myth; there is no mandate to supply replacement parts aside from Magnusson-Moss. So Tesla would have to have parts available for the battery and drive units (drive train) for 8 years and all other parts for 4 years after the last Model Y is sold.
My S is almost ten years old, and they are still making the car... which is awesome.
 
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Anybody who thinks Elon caused damages to Tesla is delusional.


Elon Musk currently has 47% popularity rating in the US, ranks #1 among business figures.

He has been proven to be correct on many things, such as Ukraine war, government censorship, covid origin, who's the real antisemite, etc. More and more people are realizing this, if you don't that's just because you live in an echo chamber.

BTW he's way more innovative than Steve Jobs, Jobs built a nice widget, but Elon built the world's largest launch vehicle and satellite constellation and launch more tonnage to orbit than the rest of the world combined by several times over.
We have sworn to you once,
But now we make our allegiance permanent.
Like currents in a torrent lost,
We all flow into you.

Even when we cannot understand you,
We will go with you.
One day we may comprehend,
How you can see our future.
Hearts like bronze shields,
We have placed around you,
And it seems to us, that only
You can reveal God’s world to us.

This poem ran in an in-house magazine published by Ford Motor Company’s German subsidiary in April of 1940. Titled “Führer,” the poem appeared at a time when Ford maintained complete control of the German company and two of its top executives sat on the subsidiary’s board.

spacerfc, that poem that Ford published feels a lot like your attitude. Take some time and think about it.
 
I suspect the superchargers will continue to have the outstanding reliability and accessibility, and the pace of their continued rollout Will continue within the normal range of multi year variability.
How? Magic? With noone to pay the bills and do the work?

Tesla's sustained dedication to the supercharger network has been instrumental in selling its cars, and present behavior is threatening that reputation, aided by a dearth of useful communication.
 
How? Magic? With noone to pay the bills and do the work?

Tesla's sustained dedication to the supercharger network has been instrumental in selling its cars, and present behavior is threatening that reputation, aided by a dearth of useful communication.

come back in a year and let’s see. It’s obvious to me how it will happen (increased productivity from smaller staff) but I get that others will refuse to see it.
 
It's not a smaller staff. It's no staff.

You can't make a non-existant team efficient enough to do anything. It breaks basic math.
There is definitely supercharger staff and most especially in the servicing team for existing superchargers and third party access. You can’t believe every headline that you read.
 
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On Monday my council should start to build 5 SC in the Glenelg suburb. All are scrapped now according to the local Tesla Supercharger Team.
In Adelaide (1,2M population) tesla sales growth from 2020 fast. ZERO new SCs since 2016.
Very unhappy with that decision.
6:38 AM · May 3, 2024

Just one example. We have to be careful about anecdotal evidence, but 100% supercharger uptime as per Elon Musk sounds like an extraordinarily inefficient use of capital (if achievable at all), while not being sufficient to properly propel a still-growing fleet of Teslas.

Slowing the breakneck pace of global expansion (excellently administered by the defunct team) may be perfectly sensible, but that hardly called for cutting everyone loose. Faith in Tesla's dedication to expanding EV ownership constituted an important part of the enterprise's sales success up to now.

Maybe it would be better if the autonomy team were hived off into a separate business asap. What's coming off the lines still are cars, and sold as such. Less exciting than then years ago, but the mission remains vital, in my opinion.
 

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Interesting story about EU ports being inundated with Chinese EVs. It isn't sustainable.




It's a similar situation as the rent-a-bike market. Tons of bicycles piled up with no users so I think they ended up sold dirt cheap overseas to bike sharing companies

Drone footage shows thousands of bicycles abandoned in China as bike sharing reaches saturation​



BTW Yes I know "capacity" does not equate to "produced".

Automakers producing 18M more vehicles than consumers can buy in China​

 
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Wasn't Tesla forced to take on new board members that weren't Elon puppets? Are they interested in stopping this madness or do they think Twitter is a success story?
#1 sign of being brainwashed by mainstream media is claiming Elon's take over of Twitter is not successful.

How many times did MSM claim twitter will cease to function after Musk fired most of the employees, yet Twitter is still here, better than ever. Like have any of you even used twitter before and after Musk takeover? I did, it's better than before.

In fact Musk's action started a new trend in Silicon Valley where more and more people are realizing there're a lot of freeloaders in tech companies: Andreessen Horowitz partner says Google is an ‘amazing example’ of employing people in ‘BS jobs’: ‘Half the white-collar staff probably does no real work’

And now even Jake Dorsey is abandoning BlueSky and re-endorsing X: Jack Dorsey quits Bluesky board and urges users to stay on Elon Musk’s X
 
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#1 sign of being brainwashed by mainstream media is claiming Elon's take over of Twitter is not successful.

How many times did MSM claim twitter will cease to function after Musk fired most of the employees, yet Twitter is still here, better than ever. Like have any of you even used twitter before and after Musk takeover? I did, it's better than before.

In fact Musk's action started a new trend in Silicon Valley where more and more people are realizing there're a lot of freeloaders in tech companies: Andreessen Horowitz partner says Google is an ‘amazing example’ of employing people in ‘BS jobs’: ‘Half the white-collar staff probably does no real work’

And now even Jake Dorsey is abandoning BlueSky and re-endorsing X: Jack Dorsey quits Bluesky board and urges users to stay on Elon Musk’s X

I guess if you define successful as not losing so much money that it threatens to bankrupt Elon Musk in the next 5 years then I can see that. I like the community notes feature. Other than that the biggest change in Twitter seems to be an explosion in porn bots.

I have to say I'm a little worried by the lack of enthusiasm in Elon Musk's supporters these days. Two years ago my statements would have had you guys declaring a fatwa on me. But here in 2024 I'm just misled by the MSM.
 
I owned 3 Teslas a few years ago and I sold all of them. For many reasons, primarily Musk, I do not want to give them my money or associate with him. Unfortunately he has aligned himself with dark areas of the political spectrum that I do not align myself with. I could explain those, but you know that he has let horrible people back on Twitter and expressed horrible views himself. Additionally, Tesla has continually lied (well Musk has lied) about FSD. About robotaxis, about many many things. For years. Tesla's quality is horrible - all three Teslas came from the factory with damage or pieces of the interior and even exterior falling off or misplaced/misaligned. Questionable decisions regarding the supercharger network. And overall, he's a jerk. So now I have an electric BMW. And it's awesome.
 
I am not an Elon fan on a personality level, but I bet I wouldn’t be a fan of almost any CEO, of any car company or other business, since they all seem to be detached narcissists. The difference is most CEOs stay quiet and don’t make it so easy to dislike them. Remember the old saying “better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you are stupid, rather than opening your mouth and removing all doubt”

Anyone who can’t stand Musk and won’t buy a Tesla because of him better not buy a Lucid instead.