Read what Elon said about it.If they are so confident in this move why are they leaving radar on the new S and X? By doing so it comes across as a cost cutting move on 3 and Y.
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Read what Elon said about it.If they are so confident in this move why are they leaving radar on the new S and X? By doing so it comes across as a cost cutting move on 3 and Y.
...Anyone know if Tesla will make it right by fitting these with sensors if they flip/fail on this one or it takes Elon time to implement? Not thrilled that they chose to deliver lesser vehicles (cost and function wise) at the same price while making new owners the attempted proof of concept...
If they are so confident in this move why are they leaving radar on the new S and X? By doing so it comes across as a cost cutting move on 3 and Y.
Did they? that's not what i saw.They stated in the article they are removing from S and X also
Yes, they did...Did they? that's not what i saw.
So basically it still comes across as a cost cutting measure. There are hundreds of thousands of cars out there now they could gather data on.Yes, they did...
All new Model S and Model X, as well as all vehicles built for markets outside of North America, will continue to be equipped with radar and will have radar-supported Autopilot functionality until we determine the appropriate time to transition those vehicles to Tesla Vision.
I have feelings about this one. I just purchased a M3 and am waiting for delivery to find out that the car I ordered is not the car I’ll be receiving. I’m a big fan of the cars and really enjoyed the test drive but for me this is on the verge of cause for cancellation. Anyone know if Tesla will make it right by fitting these with sensors if they flip/fail on this one or it takes Elon time to implement? Not thrilled that they chose to deliver lesser vehicles (cost and function wise) at the same price while making new owners the attempted proof of concept.
mind boggling to me. A 5 dollar part that could have been used to help train the visual detection.just like they have not fitted anyone with rain sensors, even though their automatic wipers basically have never operated as good as other manufacturers with sensors
So basically it still comes across as a cost cutting measure. There are hundreds of thousands of cars out there now they could gather data on.
I don't understand the last sentence from the tweet that Elon Musk said "accurate"
I was planning on ordering an M3 LR this week, but this confusing news of the radar delete is puzzling and confusing. I am putting my ordering plans on hold because adaptive cruise control and AEB are very important to me, and now without a radar on the car, I will wait until the Tesla Vision has matured to an acceptable level. Why rush to make an uninformed decision?(personal opinion post, not speaking for TMC, other moderators, or anyone other than myself)
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Only speaking for myself, if I was in the shoes of someone buying a model 3 / Y "right now" and could hold off for a bit (a few months), I would. I would want to see what others experiences were.
Now, if I really needed to have a car, I think I would still go ahead, but thats because I have owned one of these for 2+ years, and even though I have FSD, find that I enjoy driving it too much to use FSD a lot unless I am in traffic or something.
Everyones use or tolerance to be a "tester" for this type of thing is different. There is no shame in deciding to hold off, if one can do so, and is wary of this change. If I was buying a car and could hold off for a few months, I likely would hold off, or try to get a late model used one with radar still in it. Thats just because I feel it is going to take tesla some time to "work this out" and I would want the same model 3 that everyone else was getting.
It may end up to be better, or it may not, we wont know till we look at it with hindsight. Thats just what I would do, and I dont envy all of you who have to make that choice yourselves right now.
No right answer, just risk tolerance or lack thereof.
Ah this all makes sense then. I didn't realize the parts squeeze included radar units.I think the long-term move away from radar was absolutely a cost-cutting measure, but the reason it rolled out now is because they can't get the Bosch radar units. There's a shortage. So their options were to make the change now with reduced functionality or wait to build cars until the radar units were available.
Tesla is doing well but IMO they're still not in a position where they can't ship cars. I don't think they'd have done it if they weren't already planning to make the change relatively soon anyway.
The announcement clearly spelled out the disparities that the non-radar will eventually catch up with radar cars:I am putting my ordering plans on hold because adaptive cruise control and AEB are very important to me
I will wait until the Tesla Vision has matured to an acceptable level. Why rush to make an uninformed decision?
Just wanted to see those who took deliveries this week, how are the driving dynamics with Tesla Vision? Do you really notice any differences if you are already a Tesla owner?
appreciate any feedbacks!
Did I misread? I thought it was said that cars made after April 27 were not equipped with radar already?Your not serious, right? Tesla announced this yesterday.