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Dealing with Curb Rash
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I appreciate you are the expert and I understand what you are saying. But I remain convinced that the combination of wheel and tire (Uberturbine/P Zero) leaves this wheel more vulnerable than any I've seen before. Even a light brush up against a very low kerb and it's all on the alloy. I'll suggest you look at the amount of discussion on this and other forum about this very subject. I never found any such chat about the 20 inch Audisport alloys and Continental tires on my Q3.
I can't figure out why tesla don't use 1/2" smaller rims with the same size tires. It is just poor design imho. Must have to do with wind dynamics and keeping everything flat. These cars are easy worse than any of the 30 other cars I've owned.
laservet
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A quick search shows complaints about curb rash on forums specific for VW, BMW, Porsche, Ferrari, Jeep, Subaru, Honda, Audi, Dodge, Mustang, Toyota, Hyundai, Nissan, etc. It's a driver problem, not a car specific problem.
Curb rush is indeed a possibility with any car and any wheel/tire combination. But having owned all makes, models over my 40 years of driving (the last 4 being Audis with AudiSport alloys) I can assure you that none have felt as vulnerable as the Uberturbine. There is absolutely zero room for the most minor error.
With most cars if you brush very lightly against a low Curb the impact is taken by the rubber. it's not something I'm in the habit of doing but with narrow roads and even narrower parking in the UK it's pretty much inevitable.
With the Uberturbine/P-Zero combo if you so much as look at the curb that's it. Alloy is scraped.That's not even up for debate, it's a fact.
It will be the same for any wheel where the alloy sticks out beyond the rubber AND the tire is so low-profile as to make even a low curb a problem. That's why many manufactures (including my previous Audis) fit tires that give some degree of protection to the very expensive alloy wheel they sit on.
The pics included above show pretty heavy impacts and sustained contact. In most cases, the rubber has also taken a hit but all said and done if you go against an obstacle long enough and hard enough, the alloy is getting it. The Honda pictures are odd though in that wheels have taken a lot of damage yet the tires are untouched. I suspect the tires have been changed.
With most cars if you brush very lightly against a low Curb the impact is taken by the rubber. it's not something I'm in the habit of doing but with narrow roads and even narrower parking in the UK it's pretty much inevitable.
With the Uberturbine/P-Zero combo if you so much as look at the curb that's it. Alloy is scraped.That's not even up for debate, it's a fact.
It will be the same for any wheel where the alloy sticks out beyond the rubber AND the tire is so low-profile as to make even a low curb a problem. That's why many manufactures (including my previous Audis) fit tires that give some degree of protection to the very expensive alloy wheel they sit on.
The pics included above show pretty heavy impacts and sustained contact. In most cases, the rubber has also taken a hit but all said and done if you go against an obstacle long enough and hard enough, the alloy is getting it. The Honda pictures are odd though in that wheels have taken a lot of damage yet the tires are untouched. I suspect the tires have been changed.
Absolutely. But with the Uberturbine, even a good driver can FU.Bad drivers can FU anything, and do! YMMV!
Kudos to nate704 though for dedication to the cause. That's a lot of time on Google looking for scraped alloys
. I stand by my point though - this combination of wheel and tire is the most vulnerable I have ever experienced with zero consideration to real-life issues such as narrow streets, kerbs (curbs), potholes, etc. No margin for error at all. Frustratingly this is something that Tesla could 'fix' so easily too.I purchased some LRR EV tuned tires of a larger size to try and help eliminate this issue.Absolutely. But with the Uberturbine, even a good driver can FU.
Kudos to nate704 though for dedication to the cause. That's a lot of time on Google looking for scraped alloys
I went with a 265/45/20 to see if it will reduce the possibility of a small error on my part, of FN up my wheels.
elambo
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I'm wondering how it's useful to post pics of other cars with rash. No one thinks any brand is immune, so the net will be crowded with such photos, but that doesn't bring relevance to the argument that these wheels are among the most likely hit a curb. It's a thinly-veiled Straw Man argument.
Let this person vent their very valid frustrations without (ineffectively) belittling them, and if being a useful forum member is important to you maybe exhibit some humanity and offer advice for avoiding rash.
I can't think of a forum anywhere on the net with such a high percentage of thin-skinned people, offended that anyone would ever refer to their auto as imperfect. Talk about a fear of damage. These posts are NOT aimed at your personal character -- get over it.
Let this person vent their very valid frustrations without (ineffectively) belittling them, and if being a useful forum member is important to you maybe exhibit some humanity and offer advice for avoiding rash.
I can't think of a forum anywhere on the net with such a high percentage of thin-skinned people, offended that anyone would ever refer to their auto as imperfect. Talk about a fear of damage. These posts are NOT aimed at your personal character -- get over it.
elambo
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The tire/wheel combo has everything to do with it. Recess the wheel two inches inside the edge of the tire and see how often the rim is scratched. It never will. It's all about the wheel/tire. Obviously a car doesn't drive itself (well... these do) so it's ultimately the driver's actions which scratch the wheel, but this design absolutely leave the rims more vulnerable and therefore lift the chances of a curb contacting the wheel. Smart designs protect people from themselves.
laservet
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Um, most auto forums are much worse, and sports forums where they question your mother's morals.
elambo
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