M3BlueGeorgia
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It seems weird the networks with CCS chargers don't sponsor this development.
Don't they want to maximize their potential customer base?
Don't they want to maximize their potential customer base?
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CCS1 to Tesla Adapter is being developed by Tesla Korea Club.
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SammichLover
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No need for that if they care about and want Tesla owner business. Tesla vehicles can soon be charged at EVgo charging stations in the US
Far lower friction experience for their customers.
Again, Electrify America is a VW Group front and has no interest in making charging easier for Tesla drivers.
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The CCS growing faster than Chademo thing must be a regional thing. In BC they are pretty much even other than Electrify Canada approach which is motivated by VW marketing and not real EV market. The number one EV brand in BC is Tesla and the number two brand is Nissan (Leaf). Both Chademo compatible. Wouldn’t make sense to have just a CCS handle at any location. Up here a Chademo adapter is your friend if you want to meander off the main Transa Canada highway.
SammichLover
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It is a similar thing. Lots and lots of old Chademo. The reason CCS is "growing faster" is really about the 150kW CCS stalls going in. Well some of them have 350kW capability, too, but there's something like 100 vehicles total in the entire country that have a chance at utilizing those about 150kW.
Pretty much all the new installs are dual standard. I believe CA and maybe OR and WA have some new Chademo only going in but that's Nissan projects. However because so much of this is Electrify America all the locations are one 50kW Chademo cable on a 150kW CCS/Chademo charger, sometimes with a J-1772 cable as well, and the others at the location are CCS-only.
EDIT: Little surprised about the Leaf. In the US the Bolt is still edging out the Leaf in new car sales last I heard, although not all of those are CCS capable.
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EnrgyNDpndnce
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I have been holding off buying the Tesla Chademo adapter hoping and praying they will release a CCS adapter, and hoping it will be capable of at least 150 kW charging speeds. At $500 I might buy one, at $400 I’d probably buy one, at $300 or less I’d order it immediately.
Eno Deb
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Except that it's limited to 50kW (since it's just a repackaged Tesla Chademo adapter). Native CCS would be much faster with a Tesla (as seen in Europe).
SammichLover
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It is an early, low hanging fruit hack. Vaguely in the range of being an Urban SC.
Conceptually still sound, and so makes sense to extend it in that manner if you're going to put the engineering into it.
You may as well stop holding off, that is not going to happen. CCS in the united states has a no Adapter requirement due to the need for Liquid cooling which cannot be accomplished through an adapter. If someone ignores that and makes one they will have to cap it at around Chademo speeds due to lacking the liquid cooling.
SageBrush
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I hear ya. It would be nice. Even 100 kw would be nice. Chademo or CCS makes no difference to me.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
CHAdeMO is bulky, low volume, and on the way out in the marketplace. So even ignoring the elephant in the room of power, CCS adapters are a far better choice.
And yes, I realize that BC is currently adding CHAdeMO and CCS in equal numbers but the world is overwhelmingly installing CCS so you can expect BC to change its installation choices sooner rather than later. It is just a question of following the market. My crystal ball does not tell me whether Tesla will win the plug wars or join CCS2 outside of Europe, but CHAdeMO is not even in the discussion
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Even in BC CCS is taking a slight lead because of Electrify Canada. It’ll be a slow enough transmission and won’t affect those of us with either Chademo cars or Chademo adapters. But I’m willing to bet that our next Tesla will probably have a CCS port...or have an available CCS adapter. Like I say, we don’t care, as long as we have an alternative to Superchargers as they are kind of scarce in the places we travel. Course our next Tesla is probably 5 to 7 years away so.....
SageBrush
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We are. Great car. Jarvis (my wife named him) is doing everything we need him to do. Honestly I miss the leafs hatchback every time I pack up our little ryobi electric mower to cut our rental properties grass. But it’s no big deal in the big scheme of things. Fold down the handle and bungy it. The slower Chademo hasn’t affected us much because of where we take our breaks. And at least one new Supercharger is coming in the next year that will be perfect for one trip we make. No problems so far. Had a ranger visit for a problem we didn’t know we had but Tesla did. Camera learning thing. The problem was gone by the time the ranger arrived. I asked him for some guidance on an intermittent rattle in the dash. He contacted Tesla who authorized him to look at it. He pulled the dash off in 5 minutes (scary to watch) did something with some foamy stuff, put it back together and hasn’t rattled since. I’ll miss the heated steering wheel this fall but meh. Overall great experience.
Retirement came a year early because of Covid, maybe a couple months of work left. So we are now a one car family. We loved our leaf and were happy to see it go to a good home and be used in a daily commuter systym. After 4 years it was still a 12 bar battery and was in new condition. I wouldn’t hesitate to get a new Leaf Plus as a second vehicle again.....but let’s hope that doesn’t happen because that would mean I came out of early retirement. We are late 50’s and looking forward to the extra freedom we have to see some places we haven’t got to see yet....and of course thankful for the Tesla to take us there.
Considering the Chademo adapter is like $500, I don't how the CCS adapter could be $100-$250.
CHAdeMO Adapter
Unless another major manufacture works with Tesla to use Tesla's plug, I don't see the Tesla connector being the standard when every other manufacture is using the CCS Combo 2 in the US already.
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