Blog Cadillac Introduces Luxury Electric SUV

The Cadillac LYRIC electric luxury crossover was debuted by the automaker Thursday.

The LYRIQ is based on GM’s next-generation, modular electric vehicle platform, expected to offer “beyond 300 miles of range on a full charge,” according to a release. The vehicle will be offered in rear-wheel drive and performance all-wheel drive configurations.

The LYRIQ is expected to go on sale late in 2022. Cadillac is calling the vehicle it debuted a “show car,” which suggests the production version will not be the same.

“Led by LYRIQ, Cadillac will redefine American luxury over the next decade with a new portfolio of transformative EVs,” Steve Carlisle, executive vice president and president, GM North America said in a release. “We will deliver experiences that engage the senses, anticipate desires and enable our customers to go on extraordinary journeys.”

The LYRIQ is powered by GM’s new Ultium battery system, which offers “approximately 100 kilowatt-hours,” according to a release. LYRIQ offers DC fast charging at rates over 150 kW.

A unique feature of the interior is a 33-inch-diagonal LED screen that spans the viewing area for the driver and incorporates driver information details, infotainment controls and camera views. GM says the new display has the highest pixel density available in the automotive industry.

Check out Cadillac’s livestream of the unveiling above.

 

[T3SLAROD]

Now with the link?

Google is your friend.....just type in anything Tesla Delays....

Point is, the argument of delays should be last last thing anyone should be concerned about given Tesla’s history.

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We are headed for the 1 year mark of the unveiling of the Cybertruck. The factory location just broke ground, so maybe I was wrong 3 years not half a decade, so again, 2 years for Caddy is not bad.

 

[SageBrush]

Point is

You said CT delayed to 2025.

Back up your claim

 

[T3SLAROD]

You said CT delayed to 2025.

Back up your claim

I can’t back it up. You win. The CT will be here in less than 1 year

 

[Saghost]

I remember the concept/dream cars of the 1950s and 1960s. Remember the jet-powered Chrysler? I hope this is different.

Congress killed the jet powered Chrysler, so that’s hardly the company’s fault.

Chrysler turbine engines - Wikipedia

 

[texasfun]

Meh. 150 KW in 2023? Really? I noticed a significant portion of the video was of various women caressing and essentially giving the car a handy. Will that be part of the maintenance schedule?

Just sayin.

I am trying to understand the significant of 150kwh vs 250kwh here for my educational purposes. Are we really going to get 250kwh charge from start to finish even on a V3 Supercharger? Even if we get the full 250kwh charge from start to finish we probably save 12 minutes on a 100kw battery (from 10% to 90%).

 

[totoro722]

Might as well throw in my 2 cents. I expect the Cadillac will have a market, perhaps a decent sized one. This car will appeal to those people (some of whom are on this forum) for whom having all of the deluxe trim and interior features one sees on ICE luxury cars is the most important thing. They will not be interested in the Spartan interior of a Tesla, but want tight panel gaps and something that looks expensive. Those people will go for the Cadillac, or the BMW, or the Mercedes-Benz over Tesla. Good to have an option for them. The problem for this Cadillac is not that it competes with Tesla, but that it competes with ICE luxury cars. The customer for this car is someone who wants a luxe vehicle that also has an electric drive, but they will be willing to get an ICE car if the deal or product looks better. The customer for Tesla is someone who wants the best technology, hardware and software, with a car built around it. Tesla lovers are not going to even look at an ICE car with interest.

I expect that competition in the EV market will lead to convergence of these two customer groups eventually, and that Cadillac and others will improve their tech, while Tesla will improve its luxury and manufacturing. I expect that not to happen soon though. Until then there will be two different markets, each of which will grow. Cadillac and others will bring customers to EVs that would not consider a Tesla. Good for everyone.

 

[SageBrush]

I can’t back it up. You win.

A win would be less BS

 

[SOULPEDL]

Congress killed the jet powered Chrysler, so that’s hardly the company’s fault.

Chrysler turbine engines - Wikipedia

And to think they saw all these benefits in the mid 19th century, but never considered the battery really.

"The benefits... overall parts reduction of approximately 80%, tune ups eliminated, starting difficulties eliminated and no warm up needed, antifreeze not required, interior heat is available instantly in winter, no engine stalling with sudden overload, engine operates without vibration, oil consumption is negligible, exhaust gases are cool and less pollutant..."

 

[texasfun]

Might as well throw in my 2 cents. I expect the Cadillac will have a market, perhaps a decent sized one. This car will appeal to those people (some of whom are on this forum) for whom having all of the deluxe trim and interior features one sees on ICE luxury cars is the most important thing. They will not be interested in the Spartan interior of a Tesla, but want tight panel gaps and something that looks expensive. Those people will go for the Cadillac, or the BMW, or the Mercedes-Benz over Tesla. Good to have an option for them. The problem for this Cadillac is not that it competes with Tesla, but that it competes with ICE luxury cars. The customer for this car is someone who wants a luxe vehicle that also has an electric drive, but they will be willing to get an ICE car if the deal or product looks better. The customer for Tesla is someone who wants the best technology, hardware and software, with a car built around it. Tesla lovers are not going to even look at an ICE car with interest.

I expect that competition in the EV market will lead to convergence of these two customer groups eventually, and that Cadillac and others will improve their tech, while Tesla will improve its luxury and manufacturing. I expect that not to happen soon though. Until then there will be two different markets, each of which will grow. Cadillac and others will bring customers to EVs that would not consider a Tesla. Good for everyone.

Exactly. More competition is good for us, the consumers. Can you imagine Apple without Android? I have never used an Android phone but I don't want Android to go away.

 

[T3SLAROD]

Might as well throw in my 2 cents. I expect the Cadillac will have a market, perhaps a decent sized one. This car will appeal to those people (some of whom are on this forum) for whom having all of the deluxe trim and interior features one sees on ICE luxury cars is the most important thing. They will not be interested in the Spartan interior of a Tesla, but want tight panel gaps and something that looks expensive. Those people will go for the Cadillac, or the BMW, or the Mercedes-Benz over Tesla. Good to have an option for them. The problem for this Cadillac is not that it competes with Tesla, but that it competes with ICE luxury cars. The customer for this car is someone who wants a luxe vehicle that also has an electric drive, but they will be willing to get an ICE car if the deal or product looks better. The customer for Tesla is someone who wants the best technology, hardware and software, with a car built around it. Tesla lovers are not going to even look at an ICE car with interest.

I expect that competition in the EV market will lead to convergence of these two customer groups eventually, and that Cadillac and others will improve their tech, while Tesla will improve its luxury and manufacturing. I expect that not to happen soon though. Until then there will be two different markets, each of which will grow. Cadillac and others will bring customers to EVs that would not consider a Tesla. Good for everyone.

Agreed. I am looking forward to Tesla one day partnering with one of the Traditional ICE Manufacturers and bringing us the best of both worlds. Tesla has the battery, powertrain, charging network on lock and access to those would benefit these guys greatly.

 

[SageBrush]

I am trying to understand the significant of 150kwh vs 250kwh here for my educational purposes.

NOT kWh. kW

The significance is simple. You can cut the charging time to almost half.
You can have the car waiting for you rather than waiting for the car.

 

[SOULPEDL]

Those people will go for the Cadillac, or the BMW, or the Mercedes-Benz over Tesla.

I don't have % handy, but many people that normally went for BMW or Mercedes have switched over to Tesla (past tense, stole the sales away). So not a valid argument to support the claim of a "decent" market for Cadi. They all sold luxury.

Cadillac and others will bring customers to EVs that would not consider a Tesla. Good for everyone.

Agreed.

 

[texasfun]

NOT kWh. kW

The significance is simple. You can cut the charging time to almost half.
You can have the car waiting for you rather than waiting for the car.

No argument there. But how much time are we talking about here on a 100kw Tesla from 10% to 90%? And how often do we get to a V3 Supercharger? Don't get me wrong here I will take a 250kw any day vs 100kw but just trying to understand whether that's a deal breaker or not.

 

[totoro722]

I don't have % handy, but many people that normally went for BMW or Mercedes have switched over to Tesla (past tense, stole the sales away). So not a valid argument to support the claim of a "decent" market for Cadi. They all sold luxury.

Yes, they certainly have, and I suspect previous owners of those brands may make up the largest and most vocal of Tesla fans. I expect that some of the Tesla buyers will go back to other brands because of preferring what they offer over what Tesla offers. There are numerous postings of people saying they are in that group. However, there probably Is a larger group of folks who still drive those luxury brands who would not buy a Tesla, but would go to an EV from Cadillac or BMW etc. They are the bulk of the market for this new Cadillac.

 

[JCD300G]

I am the biggest fanboy for Tesla.

I am so happy to see some sort of competition out there. Be honest, Tesla is no longer the Tesla before. Quality and service down last few years. It's not like we buying a GEO Metro here. I can't even talk to a real person when it comes to service. Everything has to go thru app and service appointments always 2 or 3 weeks out.

I love the performance and technologies that Tesla provides but in term of service and quality no where near any other luxury car manufacturers. Last in JD Power quality survey. I just bought a 2020 MX Performance for my wife and I had mobile technician to my house almost every other week for some small annoying issues.

For Elon, his goal is to crank out as many cars as possible and as fast as possible. Does he worry about the quality? Absolutely not. All he worries about is to show sales growth and profit so he can make BILLIONS from the company stock going up. Just look at all the fit and finish issues with Model Y. That's just so wrong.

Hopefully with competition Tesla will bring out their A game.

 

[JCD300G]

I have a 2020 P3D. Not at all my experience. I have some minor grievances - should have Sirius XM, should have Chamberlain garage door connectivity, but other than that, naw. Sorry for your bad luck

 

[SageBrush]

No argument there. But how much time are we talking about here on a 100kw Tesla from 10% to 90%? And how often do we get to a V3 Supercharger? Don't get me wrong here I will take a 250kw any day vs 100kw but just trying to understand whether that's a deal breaker or not.

The Prima Donnas that buy a Cadillac do not ask how much time they have to wait; they complain that they have to wait. Period

 

[SOULPEDL]

The significance is simple. You can cut the charging time to almost half.
You can have the car waiting for you rather than waiting for the car.

The irony is that 150 Kw is sufficient (for me anyway). So I think the numbers game is just a response to range fear (an unknown for most bc that's how it was bashed for years in the media). I'm pretty sure most BEV owner would rather have two 150kw chargers in separate locations vs a single 250 kw charger. The bigger challenge is coverage, and COST. They could tap into Tesla's charging network as offered through open patents, but they'd lose a potential energy revenue stream possibly needed to subsidize the EV migration. Someone did take Tesla up on that offer just recently, I forget who it was off hand.

 

[ai4px]

Are we really going to complain about "2 years out" when the CyberTruck is half a decade away? Please. This Caddy blows away the Y and X. It will sell like hot cakes, especially amongst older people.

I see the Caddy as a competitor to the MS, not the Y. And the MS gets 402 miles and Caddy just says >300? I agree with another poster here.... Caddy is 5 years (or more??) behind and in two years when released it'll be 7 years behind. An honest question: When did the first 300 mile Model S come out? 2016? So the 2023 Caddy will have the same range as a 2016 Model S.

 

[SOULPEDL]

Yes, they certainly have, and I suspect previous owners of those brands may make up the largest and most vocal of Tesla fans. I expect that some of the Tesla buyers will go back to other brands because of preferring what they offer over what Tesla offers. There are numerous postings of people saying they are in that group. However, there probably Is a larger group of folks who still drive those luxury brands who would not buy a Tesla, but would go to an EV from Cadillac or BMW etc. They are the bulk of the market for this new Cadillac.

You're saying this other group of Tesla owners is ready to switch back to legacy BEV?
Every Tesla owner I've met hates legacy, steers clear of any company that uses gas in their lineup and just lip service so far.