2020.24 details

[NorfolkMustard]

Forgive my ignorance...when is this released?

No forgiveness necessary, no one outside tesla really knows and even when it's released, the date it's available for your specific car is another guess

 

[Battpower]

Looks ready for robo taxi surveillance

Doesn't it just!

I can almost see the other 4 face masked passengers off to the airport for their hol's! Is a b&w camera?! I can't think it will be.

 

[NorfolkMustard]

Go on green (if car in front and not in a turning lane) possible addition to 2020.24 (if we get stop light/sign traffic control at all)

https://twitter.com/savedtesla/status/1273851220692787200?s=21

 

[MrBadger]

3am

Software version 2020.24.5.1 was just detected on a Tesla Model 3 Long Range in Texas United States. The highest previous version was 2020.20.13. Follow the 2020.24.5.1 release at TeslaFi.com Firmware Tracker

Why is this not showing up in Teslafi fleet software tracker?

TeslaScope has an option that allows owners on early access program under NDA to still use but it keeps their vehicle details more obscure. So TeslaScope seems to attract people on Early Access that would otherwise not join TeslaFi.

Both reporting has their benefits, TeslaScope more often gets the early scoop (at least with major releases), by the time it appears on TeslaFi it is usually a few days before being released more widespread to mainstream users, although this is highly specific based on model spec and/or region. Minor releases its much the same between. Obviously, both services only detect cars subscribed the each, so ultimately, the vehicle data is self selecting.

 

[NorfolkMustard]

Go on green (if car in front and not in a turning lane) possible addition to 2020.24 (if we get stop light/sign traffic control at all)

https://twitter.com/savedtesla/status/1273851220692787200?s=21

“Confirmed”

 

[AnthonyLR]

I find it hilarious Elon confirms rumours on Twitter

 

[Battpower]

It shouldn't need to see the wheel for the task in hand. When we were monitoring driver focus, from what I saw the camera was setup to concentrate on the eyes, but it was much better framing than the shot above. But it needed to as we were tracking what people were concentrating on whilst driving.

From what remember of a seminar on the subject that I was in, I think daylight the above may suffice as they probably will not need to monitor the same levels of focus. Hopefully that camera can be pushed to see outside visible spectrum but may possibly require some IR emitters.

Have you come across any discussion about wearing of glasses / sun glasses or anything else that might confuse camera based alertness monitoring?

 

[MrBadger]

There are lots of cues that can be taken from the head to determine whether someone is being attentive. Not just the eyes are needed, but they do make it more obvious exactly what you are looking at, but that is not necessarily needed when simply monitoring driver attentiveness.

I just did a random search and came up with this presentation: https://www.autonomoustechconf.com/sites/autosensorsconf/files/assets/4 Driver Monitoring Systems Seeing Machines_Tanaka.pdf It seems to explain the problem and some different solutions.

 

[Noel83]

From what i read in the post the internal camera change is to send footage to tesla engineers in the event of an accident, not for normal usage right now

 

[Battpower]

lots of cues that can be taken from the head to determine whether someone is being attentive.

There are so many aspects to take into account. Those presentation slides (evidently aimed at promoting a particular eye monitoring solution) seem to recognise that regulations will likely require multiple alertness checks. Comparing the camera image shown earlier in this thread with those in the slides, the Tesla camera is not doing much to make it an easy task!