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Well, I guess that's my point. It's religion. Some believe it has some importance, and others think it's just nonsense that distracts from actual discussion.
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No disrespect... but have you seen some of the tangential commentary that floods this thread from time to time? TA discussion is the least of our worries.
Bet TSLA
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Sure. Wish that would stop too. Most of it belongs in the General Discussion thread, and some is more long term. But usually somebody complains about this stuff eventually and people knock it off.
MitchJi
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I don't believe that someone mentioning something about TA is more likely to generate disagreement than any other topic, probably less.
Your posts are the only disagreement or discussion. No disrespect, but if you don't like disagreements and discussions about TA you could just stop?
Its just not workable @Bet TSLA
Hypothetical scenario ...
"Price keeps bouncing off support level of XXX, go to the TA thread for more details"
No one is going to do that IMO
Hypothetical scenario ...
"Price keeps bouncing off support level of XXX, go to the TA thread for more details"
No one is going to do that IMO
TA is a part of evaluating "market action" so why it needs a separate thread is actually quite baffling to me.
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Quit talking about southern crosses, this isn't a stargazing thread. 
You're not going to please everyone. I think it's fun to see some TA observations thrown in and talk about the Tesla semi and other non market action stuff. Just take a deep breath and enjoy. Variety's the spice of life.
You're not going to please everyone. I think it's fun to see some TA observations thrown in and talk about the Tesla semi and other non market action stuff. Just take a deep breath and enjoy. Variety's the spice of life.So we all have been waiting for that short squeeze... but doesnt it look rather like stock price got manipulated down and the shorts are exiting at lower prices bailed out by weak margin-called longs ?
What if the real short squeeze never comes
Yes, a brief look at the specs of what they offer shows that their product is more expensive *and* inferior to the Powerwal 2.
I don't think it (a short squeeze) will. IMHO the shorts are some of the brokerages "best friends". They provide liquidity for the stock. They pay daily interest. They pay probably more commissions than many of us longs who just buy and hold (boring and unprofitable). So what I see is that the brokerages will help the shorts when things get rough and a short squeeze looks imminent--either add more shares, extend more credit, etc... this of course is for the big shorts. The little ones (retail) will get hosed.
Reciprocity
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Are you kidding me? Did you miss place your Kool aid? Cash flow is tight in my family as well and I just bought and financed solar. To me it's as simple as going to the bank with Tesla semi orders in one hand and patented new charger + solar and battery orders in the other. While money is cheap, get it while it's hot baby. What's the tax credit for utility grade solar?
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Reciprocity
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Don't piss on my boot and tell me it's raining on my parade. I think that's how the saying goes. I get your points and they are many, so many I couldn't read them all. My only saving Grace is I like the idea of Tesla controlling their own destiny and their ability to innovate while they do so. I just don't trust old school industries to see the light. If they do, then it will be clear to us and good for Tesla. I do see a problem with your dream of heavy cash upfront, I like it but only if it's financed by the semi owner, similar to sales of cars but with fuel included, or atleast the first million miles. If they can pull that off then I agree, other wise I'm fine with $105B I'm cash flow as a UTILITY which is unique in the fact that Tesla can leverage that at any time for cash. When you control the charging, you own then, just like my utility owns me unless I disconnect from the grid.
Yeah they are one of the reasons vivint solar stock doubled in the last month VSLR
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Not banking on a squeeze. The reason is that just like weak longs, the weak shorts bailed on this recent dip. What shocks me is the shear volume and frankly infantile quality of the FUD. Just do a search for $tsla on $twtr and see for yourself. The biggest bears are resulting to some of the dumbest stuff I have ever seen, and I have seen some really dumb stuff. Without really good FUD, you won't get enough shorts willing to mortgage their house like some longs in this forum have. In short their pimp hand is weak and build pimp hand is strong. Short squeeze could really only happen if the shorts had a ton of conviction, but we're really wrong. The fact is most of the shorts don't have the conviction required. They are weak, not mortgaging their house to maintain their short position. Some are and will, but not enough to counter to massive and stubborn longs.
Clearly the past two weeks have shown us that long squeezes are much more likely to happen than short squeezes.
Profit takers release the valves on as little as 10 percent gains.
I'd organize a tsla cartel if I could..
Profit takers release the valves on as little as 10 percent gains.
I'd organize a tsla cartel if I could..
I am on the other side. I think the semi unveiling is coinciding with the start of Tesla Logistics/Network/whatever-you-want-to-call-it. Moving (over roads) parcel or freight or human or humans from A to B to x is similar enough to tackle with one development team. Similar to the Model 3/S/X, I do not think buying a Tesla Semi will require participation in the Tesla network, but I do hope the benefit will be great enough that the best choice is fairly obvious.
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1, betting on a VW type squeeze is not an investment strategy, if it happens, great but if it's part of your investment thesis, i'd go back to the drawing board. Has been said many times by others.
2, Some here encourage shorts, I'm in the opposite camp. I think less shorts would do a lot of good. Their smear campaign has successfully fooled many good people who simply don't put in the time to read articles beyond the title or search for the truth.
I mentioned Tesla during a conversation about investments today and first thing the guy I was chatting with brought up was they only survive because of government subsidies.... I replied "like, the ones they paid back?" Anyways, he was pretty gone to the darkside, for no apparent good reason.
The more people that know the truth about Tesla, the more investors we'll have. Which is just as good if not better than shorts covering. I think TSLA would be trading higher if it was mostly strong longs and the odd profit taking without so much fear or selling at critical times for exaggerated drops. Word of mouth will get out and drown out the naysayers, this more than anything is why we need the model 3, and as many as possible.
Monday is the start of a new week of course... but can you imagine if the market dumped this past week, as a number of talking heads were predicting, while TSLA was still digesting the bear raid / short attack. Instead, SPY closed at all time highs.
I think a lot of bears were very frustrated with the helpful macro environment this past week.
I think a lot of bears were very frustrated with the helpful macro environment this past week.
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Gonna have to get the image recognition folks to work on that so autonomous Semi's still honk.
I've been wrong too many times now to count, but a few weeks ago a sold a bunch of 340 strike putts. Then the dip happened, and I held tight. As a precaution, I rolled them out to the 28th but kept the strike the same (and made even more money for now). I can't imagine that we don't climb over 340 leading up to the night of the reveal/1st deliveries. Worse case scenario, I roll them out further, but I'm expecting another dip after earnings (which I think is going to look really bad on paper), so I don't want to still be selling putts that week.
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