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Easy solution would be to put Superchargers further from doors or entryways into the destination building.

Yep - same goes for the Audi Q5/7 - all the taillights were on the hatch:

Really wanted dual motor, and would've preferred a HUD or driver's side mounted gauge cluster. Initial runs not getting dual motor and doesn't look like anybody is getting a HUD or driver's side gauge cluster. I'm going to let my deposit continue to ride and will give the center mounted screen...

The problem with your argument is that I think many people signed up for different reasons. I signed up to give myself the opportunity to buy one if I decided it was worthwhile. I don't really care that much about the rEVolution, but I certainly don't oppose it either. I have no love for Big...

Will just be adding it to the fleet.

For me, it's a Need followed by a bunch of Wants: Need: - Dual Motor Want: - Bigger Battery - Leather Seats with Memory - Enhanced AutoPilot - Glass Roof - Paint - Upgraded wheels My budget will allow for about $10k in options, so however that is best achieved.

I voted not for profit, but my intention therein is that Tesla will use revenue from the SC network to reinvest into improving or expanding the network, meaning that such revenue won't actually get applied to their bottom line.

Even after placing the order, all that's on the line is the $1000 deposit, correct? Just becomes non-refundable at that time. Yes, it's still a decent chunk of money, but if it becomes clear that you're not going to be among those receiving the full credit (if you're dependent on it), then you...

Yeah, I don't think it's that likely, but we can hope, right? :) I'd guess everything I listed could probably be had for $50k, which is more than I'm willing to pay, so I'm going to have to make a tough decision on something.

This is actually brilliant and would mostly benefit American companies as a bi-product (GM and Tesla). Win-win-win for this administration.

Lots of interesting conjecture here. I really have no idea how pricing is going to stack up, but my budget will probably top out around $45k. For that, I'd like an upgraded battery, the D, AP, pano roof, paint and a wheel option. If the base battery comes with 250 miles of range, I doubt I'd...

It really depends on a lot of factors. For me, it's a few things, most of which boil down to overall cost: 1) Price of options - if they're too expensive and I can't get what I want, I will cancel. The Model 3 is expected to start at $35,000, which is 51.4% of the Model S base price. May be...

I'd say 10 months for sure. TSLA and SCTY employees will hopefully start receiving their cars in the fall, though I don't know how many of them are active here.

Really? I might be mis-remembering, but I thought GM said they planned to sell 30,000 Bolts per year. I really would be surprised if 30,000 Model 3's get built and delivered in 2017.

I'd say no for 2017. The Model 3 will outpace it easily beginning 2018.

I would be extremely surprised. I waited in line and will be stunned if I get mine this calendar year. I'm anticipating late Spring or early Summer 2018 to park it in my garage.

I'm in the same boat, but in NC. That said, I expect to invited to configure in late 2017 but not actually receive my car until early 2018. I'm not planning on ordering something highly-optioned, but probably above what Elon noted the average transaction price would be.

I think you could make buying work if you could manage to wrangle one of the really cheap Leafs out there and get the 0% finance offer Nissan is currently floating. Here's a 2016 Leaf S for $13,731. Say you buy that one and factor in another $3k for taxes and shipping, so you've got a new Leaf...

That's actually not a bad idea. I've seen new Leafs advertised for less than $15k. I realize their residual value is in the toilet, but it's possible that you could drive it for a year or two, use Nissan's 0% financing, get the credit, apply the credit to the Model 3 as a downpayment and then...

Interesting topic and interesting read through the comments. One thing to consider, that I think Chad may have been alluding to, is that ICE vehicles are generally junked after racking up so many miles, 300k in our example here. It won't just be the powertrain that fails during that time...

I'm not so sure - I fully plan on charging my car at home unless I'm traveling. The cost savings isn't worth the time or effort to seek out a SC to top off, even if I'm about to lose freebie kWh. If Tesla rolls unused kWh over to the next year, that would eliminate such a situation from...

I don't even need that - the Leaf takes 10.4 seconds to hit 60. I'd be happy with six seconds, which is what the base Model 3 should be good for.

Isn't this similar to the situation where the guy's girlfriend bought his reservation? OP could configure the car when prompted to his friend's specs, and then when it's time to do the paperwork, the friend should be able to be the one who buys it (pays, name on title/lien), right? Then he...

I'll categorize under two headings, Wants and Likes. I'd be okay with a base car, but there are certainly options I want to add and others I'd like to have if cost works out. I think my upper threshold on pricing is $45-50k. Wants: - Dual Motor - Upgraded Paint - Leather - AP 2.0 Likes: -...

The opening theme to 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Take average life expectancy, subtract current age. I realize you're trying to be funny, but in all likelihood, if you're 75+ years old, the Model 3 could very well be the last car you purchase. If you're 25, it most likely will not be.

Unless you've only got about 10-15 years remaining in your lifespan, I highly doubt it. Cars are now being designed with disposal in mind and I doubt the Model 3 will be any different. While the drivetrain may be robust enough for 20+ years of service, it's unlikely the rest of the car will...

Same here - another east coast line waiter. I'm hoping mid-2018, but will be thrilled if it's available sooner than that. The gas shortage here thanks to the Colonial Pipeline issue has only further emboldened me and I think finally got my wife fully on board :).

Want to compare US sales counts at the end of 2018, cumulative for each model? That means the Bolt would get 2016, 2017 and 2018 and the Model 3 would get *maybe* 2017 and 2018. Eh? No idea how many Tesla will be able to screw together during that time, but they'll sell them all. Not sure if...

Great post! This is about 90% of how I feel as well, with the other 10% being the performance factor of the Teslas. They've taken an EV and actually made it into a performance car, distancing themselves from other offerings like the Leaf, Volt or Bolt. Not to say those three are bad, but they...

That Lexus example is a little disingenuous. That's an IS, which at that point had been around in that generation since 2006, so it's unsurprising that it would fail a new test it wasn't initially designed for. I think those of us recommending used are suggesting a current model, just used...

You know the best option, even if it's not something you want to do. Buy the used economy car. It doesn't have to be a penalty box, but if you buy something that has largely depreciated, you can sell it when you're done without much loss if you want the Model 3 to be your only vehicle. Or...

Considering I have no need for an additional car right now, I wouldn't lease anything until our Model 3 is ready.

Are you sure? I can build an Audi S8 out to $157k and a BMW B7 Alpina xDrive to $167k.

I follow your logic, but I'll just be stunned if that happens. The $140k price of the PSDL is 2.3x that of the base car, right? Apply that same 2.3x price increase to the Model 3 and you arrive at $80k. Selling the loaded Model 3 for nearly 3x what the base car costs just doesn't make a lot...

I suppose that's fair, but when I used the S-class reference, I was considering luxurious options. That said, the Model S doesn't have anything that I would consider terribly luxurious. To that point, I may be wrong and they will share the entire options list between them. I guess I can only...

If the prices outlined by the OP are close to accurate, I'll be among those who have to cancel my reservation. My wife is barely on board as it is, and I think would be willing to go up to $50k for a nicely-equipped car, but according to the chart, that would only be a 60D with AP and nothing...

Agreed - there's no way they'd support two variants, especially if they required different hardware. That's no different than the "will the Model 3 have two different types of door handles" discussion. Not happening. Also, can you imagine the field day the press would have with Tesla if they...

LOL - that'd be pretty good too. I keep hoping for a benefit that's probably unrealistic, like free Supercharging or AP. That's no actual cost to Tesla to include, but lost revenue opportunity.

Or it could mean we'll get something else! :D

I voted acceleration, but it really depends on the gulf between the two. Meaning, if I can get one with a 300 mile range, but it means it only accelerates to 60 in ten seconds, I wouldn't want it at all. Conversely, if I could have a Model 3 that accelerated to 60 in four seconds, but only had...

Even though I'm a day-one reserver, I'm hoping that by being a non-Tesla owning, East Coaster who won't option his car to the moon, I'll get one with most of the kinks worked out.

Guess I'm playing for fun! Stupid work getting in the way of my forum viewing :) I'll say 3.1 seconds and a price of $58,500.

Nothing for me either :( :( :(

Received ours sometime last week - got back into town on Friday and it was waiting in the mailbox with the other held mail, slightly bend, but otherwise fine. Didn't bother to check the envelope for any numbers before tossing it out. Anybody have any plans for the picture and note? Thought it...

Manufacturing efficiency addresses it completely. If you're manufacturing fewer configurations, even if they make no logical sense as in your example above, that would enable the factory to have less manufacturing variance. Do you think it would be easier to build one convertible, then one...

This is an excellent point - they could easily group cars configured with similar options to build them as a cohort. Fewer builds generally equals increased efficiency. Why do you think every other automaker bundles options? Your first two statements conflict one another, as I see it :)...

LOL! I couldn't remember if I made it - I searched (not my old threads, just a general search in Model 3) and I guess I didn't use very good terms. My feeble mind. :( Mods, please close or merge.

That'd be amazing, but I wonder at what point you'd run into packaging issues. Would a 90kWh battery even fit in the smaller Model 3? That's a really great point. I'd almost guarantee that every S60 that comes back to them they'd unlock and resell as a S75 for more money.

On the Model S and Model X, for the most part, options are a la carte. You can order air suspension without having to get Performance or high fidelity without leather, or any combination of items. I realize that they do have "packages," but the only one that really bundles a series of options...