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The price is high on that car is because you paid for the electricity in advance.:scared:
Well, that statement is not *that* far off the mark. First, part of the car's price goes to pay for Supercharging, which agrees with that statement. But also:
Part of the reason the price of the car is high is because you're paying for a lot of the "fuel" when you buy the car. By that I mean that the pack itself is what enables the drastically cheaper-per-mile fuel source (electricity), so if you consider that you're paying in advance for the right to have a low fuel cost per mile over the life of the car, it makes sense.
$2500 supercharger fee does not bring the price up that high. that's a fee needed to continue building the network. it's like saying the a7 is high in price because it comes with free gas... makes no sense.
$2500 supercharger fee does not bring the price up that high. that's a fee needed to continue building the network. it's like saying the a7 is high in price because it comes with free gas... makes no sense.
1) Supercharging is now standard so there is no additional fee
2) Nobody's saying it's the sole reason the price is high, but the battery pack is by far the primary cost contributor for the Model S, and you can think of a battery pack as paying for a chunk of your fuel costs up front.
By the way, which A7 comes with free gas? Sounds like a sweet deal.
$2500 supercharger fee does not bring the price up that high. that's a fee needed to continue building the network. it's like saying the a7 is high in price because it comes with free gas... makes no sense.
actually the battery pack has dropped drastically since release of model s. The average cost is now $145 per kwh on battery packs as per chevy stating that price is inline with what elon musk had stated in the past.
it may be a big cost but not the $35-$50k it used to be
Chevy Bolt Battery Cells = $145/kWh, New Chevy Volt With Autonomous Driving | CleanTechnica
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I'm not sure what this has to do with what I said.
1) Supercharging is now standard so there is no additional fee
you said this
"2) Nobody's saying it's the sole reason the price is high, but the battery pack is by far the primary cost contributor for the Model S"
it's not "by far" any longer because the battery pack has dropped in price by 50% or more.
it's the most expensive but not "by far" any longer
No, it still is by far. The cost of a Model S battery pack has not dropped 50%--not a chance. But even if it had, it would still be, by far, the largest cost contributor to the Model S. Suppose the pack were only $10,000. (It's actually still far more than this). Can you name another component of the car that costs even remotely this much?
And be careful not to mix the cell cost per kWh with the pack cost per kWh.
I have heard that before, too. But I rationalized it thinking about the whole Supercharger Network that Tesla has had to build on its own. That gave me the "peace of mind" to buy the car.
the aluminum body?
Indeed!So I bought a 120K vehicle that, for me, competes quite well with others. I'm not into the plush luxury and like the austere environment. So for me, this car is equivalent to an S class 550, A-8, 750i. And for the haters, yes, I know they are "nicer". Just not for me. It's paid for and now I only pay 4.50USD for 250mi, rather than something between 40 and 60USD for the same range, depending upon gas prices. If I used superchargers a lot, which I don't, the cost would be even less, averaged out. AND!!! I get to fill up in my garage!
20MPG x 18 gal x either 4.75 or 3.20 per gal (hi-lo in NoCA last two years) x 350 range x 71% to get to 250 range. Roughly.
For me... such a deal! And I think the MS handles much, much better than those competitors. Which meets my needs.
I think I got a bargain in the long run.