My experience taking Tesla to court about FSD

[zoros]

Tesla hit with proposed class action over phantom braking issue

A California owner of a Tesla Model 3 sued the electric vehicle maker in a proposed class action over cars suddenly stopping for non-existent obstacles, calling it a "frightening and dangerous nightmare," according to the lawsuit.

www.reuters.com

Tesla is sued by drivers over alleged false Autopilot, Full Self-Driving claims

Tesla Inc was sued on Wednesday in a proposed class action accusing Elon Musk's electric car company of misleading the public by falsely advertising its Autopilot and Full Self-Driving features.

www.reuters.com

Tesla recalls 362,000 cars after regulator said 'Full Self Driving' increases crash risk

Hundreds of thousands of Teslas are being "recalled" in America after the country's vehicle safety regulator said the firm's semi-autonomous systems increased the risk of a crash.

www.driving.co.uk

 

[Billbrown1982]

Tesla hit with proposed class action over phantom braking issue

A California owner of a Tesla Model 3 sued the electric vehicle maker in a proposed class action over cars suddenly stopping for non-existent obstacles, calling it a "frightening and dangerous nightmare," according to the lawsuit.

www.reuters.com

Tesla is sued by drivers over alleged false Autopilot, Full Self-Driving claims

Tesla Inc was sued on Wednesday in a proposed class action accusing Elon Musk's electric car company of misleading the public by falsely advertising its Autopilot and Full Self-Driving features.

www.reuters.com

Tesla recalls 362,000 cars after regulator said 'Full Self Driving' increases crash risk

Hundreds of thousands of Teslas are being "recalled" in America after the country's vehicle safety regulator said the firm's semi-autonomous systems increased the risk of a crash.

www.driving.co.uk

All in America though and they raise a class action if their coffee gets too cold. Not really relevant.

 

[Jason71]

All in America though and they raise a class action if their coffee gets too cold. Not really relevant.

Or too hot.

Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[spdpsba]

Or too hot.

Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

They are in fact too hot like a boiling water.

 

[Jason71]

They are in fact too hot like a boiling water.

not wanting to take this down a rabbit hole but the story says 82-88 degrees C which is not boiling.
but she won the case so yes presumably that is too hot which was litterally the point of me posting it.

 

[spdpsba]

presumably that is too hot which was litterally the point

And tasteless like boiling water - is there a way to sue McDonald’s actually not fulfilling the brief of what a coffee should taste like? - unfortunately other than boiling water we can’t compare that with anything and they didn’t say coming soon - so may be we are not lucky as the Tesla law suits!

 

[GlynG]

And tasteless like boiling water - is there a way to sue McDonald’s actually not fulfilling the brief of what a coffee should taste like? - unfortunately other than boiling water we can’t compare that with anything and they didn’t say coming soon - so may be we are not lucky as the Tesla law suits!

Genuine question here, - At home i have a bean to cup machine - Sage Oracle. My expresso is brown, I always use milk to make coffee and the result is a brown liquid - Why is McDonalds Coffee (Latte) always grey? They say they use Arabic beans and maybe a blend, I use single origin beans but must have tried probably around 50 different regions and countries of origin and never had a grey cup of liquid, and it seems the Grey colour is exclusive to McD

 

[pgkevet]

Make a pot of coffe and leave it to stay warm and it will go grey in 30mins

 

[spdpsba]

stay warm and it will go grey in

It is not warm - it is boiling hot and grey and tasteless!

 

[Jason71]

I had not started this hot coffee debate.
I don't even drink Coffee!

 

[spdpsba]

I had not started this h

Where is the form teacher to investigate who the instigator is????

 

[MrBadger]

Make a pot of coffe and leave it to stay warm and it will go grey in 30mins

I suspect its also affected by MdD also seeming filtering their coffee prior to serving.

I grind my own coffee and brew using a couple of methods, and irrespective of how it is roasted, there is a lot of variation between different brew methods, proportions, timings and how far through the brew you fill the cup from.

Ironically, McD also use to have a reputation for making a good cup of coffee, until that all changed.

 

[Jason71]

Where is the form teacher to investigate who the instigator is????

I meant to write I WISH I had not started it . but sadly I did

 

[spdpsba]

McD also use to have a reputation for making a good cup of coffee, u

Whether I believe this or not one thing is pretty sure our coffee standards have risen considerably over the last 30 years - imagine McDs coffee tasting anywhere like a coffee should. I had tasted McD and Starbucks coffee 20 years ago - wouldn’t call it anywhere close to a standard less than a euro french or the italian coffee by any stretch of imagination.

 

[Andywil]

Whether I believe this or not one thing is pretty sure our coffee standards have risen considerably over the last 30 years - imagine McDs coffee tasting anywhere like a coffee should. I had tasted McD and Starbucks coffee 20 years ago - wouldn’t call it anywhere close to a standard less than a euro french or the italian coffee by any stretch of imagination.

I'm just a simple soul and find that 1 teaspoon of Nescafé with a touch of milk gives me the perfect brew with little effort.

 

[spdpsba]

I'm just a simple soul

Me too! - with alcohol just quantity over quality I guess

 

[Whyone]

This is an important thread.....very disappointing and disrespectful to @edb49 for it to be taken OT like this.

 

[Js1977]

This is an important thread.....very disappointing and disrespectful to @edb49 for it to be taken OT like this.

Yes. As important as allot of threads are in most forums not just this one here. They do get derailed. Wouldn't worry about @edb49... He is most probably laughing about rubbing peoples nose with this thread and to be fair probably glad he did it on his own now

 

[Billbrown1982]

Honestly I think the thread has run its course. The OP has given us his side of the story full of very important information but they have done just about all they need to do now and can ride off into the sunset happily.

The rest of us have just gone back to our moaning about FSD and Coffee standard conversation so I don't see any harm now.

 

[nsturge]

Hi Ed. Congrats! This is good to read. I am doing something very similar wrt to lack of EAP since USS removal. Hearing set for April. Would be good to chat. Here’s a link to my Fb forum post:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/teslauk/permalink/3481116545469116/

Please get in touch there! Thanks. Neil