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You sure that coke ain't got any Jack in it because clearly reading comprehension is a challenge for ya atm. Enjoy your all seasons. lmao

Comparing tire wear between a 500+ treadwear rating all season tire to max summer perf rubber is being obtuse to the nth degree. Then you're also not going like for like with diameter and width? lmao PS4S is OEM to Porsche 911 GT3s, M3s, Bugatti Chirons and 2021+ MS. It's a very awesome...

Ok dude give us PS4s freeeeeedommmmmm

-1.1 rear camber via adjustable arms + all other alignment settings in spec per Tesla = 10K miles on rear T2 PS4S, minimal wear to date including the very innermost edge. If these tires make it to 20K+, I'm pretty much making my money back on the N2itive arms. Caveat is I rarely, if ever...

Lmao

If 19s were a viable option for my MSP, I would no question just go that route.

Good for you. I don’t know what I’m going to eat for dinner often times.

And you thought Tesla depreciation was bad. lmao

I like to fly with my instrument panel front and center. Data is gold. Me? -1.1 rear camber, toe within factory spec on low mode. 9-10K miles on T2 PS4S. Barely any wear. You?

Your tire wear experiences are worthless without... alignment specs.

I have zero tire wear issues thanks to the N2itive camber arms. My car feels even lighter and more powerful since I run 21" Forgeline wheels replacing the made in China cast Arachnids weighing in at a porky 35 lbs each. The Track Pack brakes give me ridiculous stopping power and look even...

I'm so sorry you're going through this. It sucks. Period. Unfortunately, rejecting a new Tesla because of some panel gaps or paint probs doesn't address the fundamental issue of Tesla's parsimonious, anti-customer-centric third world service center staffing. This ain't no Lexus, but to put...

You need new alignment shop friends. It's the most bogus urban myth I've ever heard. Your car should drive arrow straight at all speeds whether asleep or wide awake (latter preferred).

Uh, wrong. Please stop. I'm sorry that you have to go through this. I'd honestly dump my Model S if it ever gets in an accident beyond a bumper scuff. You may want to find a really OCD race alignment shop that'll also look at your subframes to make sure everything is truly straight and...

Lowering links suck

Post your alignment sheet here dude

Here's the only downside I see opting for Track Pack brakes which is consistent with sourcing any parts from Tesla. ***It took Tesla nearly 6 months to replace two rear AP Racing calipers*** Lesson learned: Do not ever get in a situation where you need to replace TP components. Mine was only...

Yea that's my point exactly

That’s the benefit of going with the much more expensive camber arm option. No wondering. You can precisely set camber to spec. If I wasn’t ocd about my cars I’d opt for these shims.

Just drive both and make a decision for yourself. I did. I'd rather sell my MSP than go back to the peasant steel brake life.

I personally can't stand nudging the wheel while the vehicle is at speed. I simply click the scroll wheel a notch or two. If FDS doesn't nag me at all like EAP does, especially in dark conditions, I may be swayed to pay the $2K fee.

Not OC, but Monrovia Alignment installed my forged N2itive arms and did a great job. Small shop that was recommended by N2itive's owner. https://monroviaalignment.com/ These shims look like a good budget solution and smart that they supply a longer bolt.

Tesla Service Centers are a last resort for me and will be the primary reason why my MSP will be my first and last Tesla. It’s a simple tie rod adjustment that any decent alignment tech should be able to handle or anyone with a lift and a wrench in <5 min per adjustment. It’s only time...

Forgeline is as legit as it gets, USA made. Forgeline here too. Nice!

IMHO, if you have to ask the question, just get the LR. My ego wouldn't allow me to settle for anything less than the Plaid which at the time was the fastest EV sedan on the planet. If I was dumping the ICE for my first EV, I had to satiate the thirst for the craziest power experience to...

Sounds to me your “skepticism” is really rooted in emotional trauma from owning a service center special. Just like that William from seattle poster who thinks every model s vibrates like his. You both suffer from Tesla schadenfreude. Dump your 🍋 already Lol

yours would vibrate off the i90 floating bridge at 80 mph lol

Why would you be skeptical of a car that is world renowned as one of earth’s fastest of all time? Iirc it took me <20 seconds to go from a hwy 55-60 mph punch to exceed 190 on a flat road in Mexico somewhere. Your X carries an extra 600lbs of weight compared to the S with worse aero. It was too...

you're weird man lol

10k miles and nearly a year old now bought new. My MSP has always had the cold start vibration that goes away after a minute or so. Glass smooth otherwise all the time tested up to 190mph. Beauty.

Funny how you measure to the tenth and hundredths of a second yet don’t hesitate to add 200lbs of weight to the MSP. It’s one of the lightest EVs in its class at 4800lbs. Don’t fat shame our MSP. lol Carry on

I'm waiting for a call from the Tesla Service Center tech why they're insisting the pads and rotors have to be burnished to explain why someone put 20 miles on my ride. SMFH. Gracias.

qq - when replacing the track pack calipers, just the calipers and reusing the existing pads and rotors, is there any reason to burnish the brakes yet again?

Anything but the very latest Model S fails the look back test for me in the current Tesla lineup. Thus, this new 3 or X or Y or Cybertruck will never have my name on the title. Proportions are all wrong to visually delight.

I actually pommel horse it getting into my ‘23 so my seat bolster zero wear forever. My left hand on sill to lift my arse up and over rarely touching any fake leather. Zero wear in any of my vehicles. my LC on 37s, obviously different technique. I’m water tank verified 6% body fat and have...

I’d rock the Taycan turbo gt over the sapphire no doubt on just looks and brand alone. it's the best looking EV sedan on the market now: 1) tgt; 2) Audi rs e-tron refresh; 3) MSP. Love the competition! I wonder how lucid got it done sans carbon sleeves and what the actual top speed is on the...

Has anyone installed their Jupiter spoiler on a Plaid with pics? I'd like a bit more of an aggressive look to the rear. I will be having it professionally installed at my trusted body shop so not interested in adhesion, but more so on quality long term (fading, fitment, etc).

The rears look like regular seats which I'm cool with - pls keep this thread updated with retrofit options as soon as Tesla makes them avail. Thanks!

Track Pack brakes and these new seats are a must. I'll be the first to order to complete my '23.

Google is your friend

8K miles on my '23 Plaid with OEM PS4S running -1.1 rear camber via N2itive forged arms... negligible wear even on the very innermost tread. I hope to get 20-25K miles out of the rears. Pretty amazing what basic vehicle alignment knowledge gets you in return. Shock of the century.

Spacers suck

They look great. I’m guessing $10k at the shop with install at tsc. Hope they offer all black.

My $.02 in brackets - gl!

For posterity, here are Tesla's part #s for the rear AP Racing calipers. CALIPER ASSY, RR RH, PERFORMANCE PACK(1420606-20-C) CALIPER ASSY, RR LH, PERFORMANCE PACK(1420605-20-C)

Track Pack calipers are AP Racing branded not Brembo. Not sure if it makes any difference since Brembo owns AP Racing. Good luck!

That sucks

I default to low and manually raise to high via long press which works brainlessly great for me. I have very little tire wear on my OEM PS4S because I had it professionally aligned to ~1.1 rear camber via N2itive arms on low. I'm hoping to get 20-25K miles out of my rear tires currently at 7K.

Left scroll wheel customization. Obviously, we get the suspension height feature.

I just have raise suspension assigned to my left jog wheel press.