Knightshade
Well-Known Member
False - I haven’t reviewed every other brand of car but our Subaru Forester has no such warning.
Yes, it does.
Guess you've never read THAT manual either huh?
Forrester Eyesight manual said:The Pre-Collision Braking System may activate in the following situations.
Therefore concentrate on safe driving.
- Passing through an automatic gate (opening and shutting)
- Driving close to the vehicle in front
- Driving in a location where the grade of the road changes rapidly...
- There is an obstacle on a curve or intersection.
- A vehicle or an object is being narrowly passed.
PCS offers the SAME warnings as Tesla about when it might brake without need.
And their adaptive cruise?
Forrester Eyesight manual said:Adaptive Cruise Control is designed for use on expressways, freeways, toll
roads, interstate highways and similar limited access roads. It is not intended
to be used in city traffic
Huh... that's actually MORE restrictive than Teslas warnings!
It actually goes on to list like a DOZEN more conditions and places where it might not work properly like....any place brightness changes (tunnels, overpasses, etc).... or hills... or sharp or winding roads.... or ordinary roads other than highways (it literally says ordinary roads on page 45) and more.
Beyond the warnings, I care about the level of function and accuracy.
See below.
Accuracy seems pretty far from a concern given how little your posts have had. See below indeed.
Again, false. I’ve driven several other cars with adaptive cruise control and had exactly zero problems with phantom braking. Zero. nada. Zilch. Null. Nothing. 1/∞.
You have confused "personal anecdote" with "facts and data"
A common error I know.
Here's Subaru owners who had phantom braking
Subaru owner driving on EyeSight said:Was on the interstate going 75 mph, getting ready to pass a big rig on a left curve. As we're going into the curve with the big rig just ahead of us, the car brakes hard! Car behind us almost hits us
Another owner in the thread said:this is the scariest feature of the car to me.
Third owner in the same thread said:Eyesight collision avoidance. From your description, the cameras thought you were driving right into the side of the truck. I've had a similar thing happen when a slower truck changed lanes in my direction.
4th owner same thread said:Same thing could happen going round a steep curve with a wall right next to the road.
Then we get one guy saying it's always worked fine for him- what are you talking about?
That you?
Anyway after him others also report having the same phantom braking issues-
Another Subaru owner said:This happened on a Kansas interstate with a posted speed limit of 75
Another one said:smoke from cars or trucks sometimes triggers the eye-sight as potential collision, it happened to me.
Yet another said:If you don't pull over early enough it will hit the brakes even if you are changing lanes until it determines the lane is clear. I notice this frequently
This was all on ONE page of ONE thread in a Subaru forum.
So your claim it doesn't happen to Subarus is explicitly false
Just like your previous claim the manual had no warnings about it.
I do expect performance comparable to other cars on the market.
Tesla delivers performance and capabilities significantly better than other cars on the market.
CR tested over a dozen systems. Tesla scored higher than all of them on those measures.
Subaru does make it in the top half of systems at least