insaneoctane
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Just out of curiosity, what is the advantage to me as the driver of having a front license plate, other than avoiding tickets?
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Guess who just got pulled over??? This loser!
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No advantage to you as a driver except it's the law - just like with having a plate at all and registering the car. It gives the police or other interested parties more chance to read your plate number in more situations, if they should happen to be looking for it for some reason.
insaneoctane
Well-Known Member
How about I continue to be a (mostly) law abiding citizen, pay my registration and insurance, be responsible for all my actions involving my vehicle and I will keep my front plate off...
As always, you're free to take any action that you choose, provided you're prepared to accept the consequences that society's (often questionable) judgement deems appropriate.
That's not the point. They are the ones who have to enforce the law. If you want to respect the police, don't break laws, even if you think the laws are dumb. The police may think the laws are dumb too, but they still have to enforce them.
TaoJones
Beyond Driven
Amazing how so many states don't have front plate laws and how anarchy hasn't gotten a foothold in any of them.
In most if not all states, plate and tint discrepancies are considered secondary - which is to say you can't be pulled over for them. However, I too am surprised the officer referenced in the OP didn't step up for the $300 stop sign ticket. Pleasantly surprised, as this indicates that the officer used what we call *discretion*, to his or her credit. If they had to enforce every law, and they certainly do not, all they would do is write tickets all day every day and, believe it or not, that's not the primary goal of "traffic enforcement" or of "law enforcement" - especially in Los Angeles.
The officer wrote the ticket essentially to write the ticket as a result of the stop, but didn't lower the boom for what sounds like could have been close to $1000 in tickets overall. The tint ticket cost varies widely from county to county and even by municipality, as do the almost completely unavoidable administrative fees for any ticket except the fix it ticket and some parking tickets, as I recall. It's just gotten out of hand in that regard.
The latest kerfuffle in the Beach Cities has to do with curbing wheels if an incline exceeds 3%. The attempted "They're just enforcing the law" argument was of course shot down immediately and now discussions are underway to find a balance between education and selective revenue generation. If I had to prognosticate an outcome, it would be a halving of the ticket cost and a significant increase in periodic enforcement all over town(s) so that awareness stays at an acceptable level.
The police have far better things to do with their time and generally won't go crazy writing tickets unless a) the driver is a Richard, or b) it's time for a grant-funded "zero enforcement" session, in which case everybody gets some overtime and it's a ticket-writing free-for-all (cue J. Geils).
In most if not all states, plate and tint discrepancies are considered secondary - which is to say you can't be pulled over for them. However, I too am surprised the officer referenced in the OP didn't step up for the $300 stop sign ticket. Pleasantly surprised, as this indicates that the officer used what we call *discretion*, to his or her credit. If they had to enforce every law, and they certainly do not, all they would do is write tickets all day every day and, believe it or not, that's not the primary goal of "traffic enforcement" or of "law enforcement" - especially in Los Angeles.
The officer wrote the ticket essentially to write the ticket as a result of the stop, but didn't lower the boom for what sounds like could have been close to $1000 in tickets overall. The tint ticket cost varies widely from county to county and even by municipality, as do the almost completely unavoidable administrative fees for any ticket except the fix it ticket and some parking tickets, as I recall. It's just gotten out of hand in that regard.
The latest kerfuffle in the Beach Cities has to do with curbing wheels if an incline exceeds 3%. The attempted "They're just enforcing the law" argument was of course shot down immediately and now discussions are underway to find a balance between education and selective revenue generation. If I had to prognosticate an outcome, it would be a halving of the ticket cost and a significant increase in periodic enforcement all over town(s) so that awareness stays at an acceptable level.
The police have far better things to do with their time and generally won't go crazy writing tickets unless a) the driver is a Richard, or b) it's time for a grant-funded "zero enforcement" session, in which case everybody gets some overtime and it's a ticket-writing free-for-all (cue J. Geils).
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The police have no obligation to enforce every law nor do they have an obligation to protect or serve. These are aspirational items, not part of what defines them.
Jevi_S85D
Member
U like black cars. I'm ok with this - but it is kind of weird.
Have a look at my cars - not black - no hint of being a royal or russian mafia or drug dealer or whatever. Just an ordinary person.
Have a look at my cars - not black - no hint of being a royal or russian mafia or drug dealer or whatever. Just an ordinary person.
TaoJones
Beyond Driven
Nice pic. It could be the lighting where I'm sitting - but please tell me - are those both silver or the briefly-available titanium colour? Too light to be midnight silver/steel grey... Aha - is the Model S that original dolphin grey?
Enforcing a law on every violation is different from enforcing the law generally. They have discretion, they can't refuse to enforce.
As I said, if you want to show respect to the police, you won't break the law.
Jevi_S85D
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For some inexplicable reason the titanium colour of the model S is very similar to my Citroen C4 Picasso from 2011. I love both cars but should really sell the Citroen. I just can't because they're so good together. Same colour inside and out. Piano black, beige alcantara/leather etc.
gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
T34ME
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Yeah, the LEO did the OP a favor. A ticket for running a stop sign is a lot more expensive than a fix-it ticket for a front plate.
$300≠$20. Appreciate what that cop did a lot.
Dad was driving@zackmilo, you didn't get ticketed for being too young to drive?!
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Makes it (slightly) easier to track down a delinquint driver. Only slightly, but non-zero.
Where that benefits you is that it keeps the roads (slightly) safer for you, the model motorist.
Let's not forget the rectangular area of paint on the bumper which will be protected from bug splats and stone chips. Woohoo!
looks nice mate! may i inquire who did your tint, dechrome, and wheels in Los Angeles. Im in the area too, and looking for reputable shops to complete the work.
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