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this is the stupidest thing I’ve read today. Do Apple and Microsoft SELL you stuff based on future software or hardware that they might make in 3 years? No. They charge you for what they already provide. When did Apple say “buy our phone with 3 cameras now because that means you will get super...

You are absolutely right, no one is going to change anyone's mind on this forum anyways. Posting things that go against the common opinion is literally just wasting time and I should really stop doing it. I will stop. I am pretty sure most of my experience IS the new norm with Tesla, but...

First of all, what kind of an ICE engine loses 20% of power after 30k miles? Have you ever owned a car before? Secondly, losing battery range means A LOT more than losing a few mpg. Refueling an ICE car still takes minutes, refueling an old battery will a) take longer and b) give you less range...

Low cost of ownership? I spent more money and time trying to fix all the problems my car had in a year than I would have spent on 5 years of fuel and oil changes. See my point about what is and isn’t under warranty. Looks great, yup. From the outside. I won’t say much about the interior. Nice...

That is complete nonsense. The amount of delusion some people have is insane. I was there, too a while ago. To the op: Sold Model S, bought an Audi A5. Enjoying Apple car play, nicely designed virtual cockpit, quality interior with top notch materials, range. Like, just 2 weeks ago I got 720km...

This. Porsche made a beautiful car with top notch build quality (I am sure) and very, very good performance, but this is just embarrassing. Can’t be worth this much money, no way.

you’re posting on the wrong forum, sir. Way too many deluded fanbois, Tesla ass kissers, Elon worshippers and other similar people on this website. Any word against Tesla is instantly met with something along the lines of “But but but other manufacturers”, “but but big oil!!”, “but but THE...

What a disaster, Porsche. Crazy that all these companies with essentially unlimited resources can’t even come close to matching Tesla range and efficiency, let alone surpass it. This pretty much means e-tron GT will be an equal disappointment next year. I really wanted the Taycan, but this is...

Bumpity bump, sun shades still available.

Mcu protector is gone. Floormats and sunshades still available, but I would prefer someone in the Vancouver - Seattle area since shipping is an expensive hassle.

pano(sun)roof

Cubby and hoodie are gone.

It’s hard to believe Tesla is taking so long to “create and produce a machine” when a $35 diy solution works just fine. Wtf are they doing?

Is that what you’re getting? Awesome choice, it’s a brutal vehicle with insane build quality. I ended up buying an A5 to save/invest money and bridge the gap until e-tron GT arrives. Perfect enough for my needs. And well, if that ends up being garbage, I can wait for a few more years, too until...

hey, it’s their money so they can do whatever they want. The thing that ticked me off was trying to ask for help here knowing full well that the process is garbage after they already started the process. Metaphorically speaking, jumping into a pool full of sharks and then yelling for help is a...

meh, it’s all lies. Big oil paid them to sue Tesla and disparage Elon!! on a more serious note, my car had almost all the issues they are complaining about.

Sold my 2015 Model S and now selling some accessories that I purchased for it: 1) A set of sunshades for all windows plus the sunroof from EVannex. Original price $300, bought in June. They are in perfect condition, I've used them twice this year when I left my car at the airport for a few...

I recently drove two 2018 75Ds. They were both horrible. Rattles from glass roof, center console, seats, vents.

to be honest, people like you ARE the problem. Why are you even trying to complain here? Why the hell are you buying a car that you have no idea what condition it’s in? Tell Tesla to f off and save that money for a smarter investment. Is the feeling of being cool/hip/planet saver/different...

Luckily, we live in a world where even if lawyers won’t support you and won’t stand with consumers, you can still vote with your wallet and not buy junk, as well as tell others not to. At some point, these companies will start listening. Tesla, despite claiming otherwise and portraying...

Isn't it a federal law that they must give you the original part if you request it? Tesla seems to break and bend laws at will without any repercussions. Absolutely terrible.

You’re mostly right, but you know, it also depends. I did probably 10 test drives this year with different service center folks (twice with the foreman of my local SC, super cool and nice man, probably the only competent person in my local SC, but probably also way too busy to have time to fix...

I wish I had willingness to debate with you, but I will say at least something: Tesla most certainly won’t be the one to save the planet with the way they are behaving. A company run by borderline unstable people, employing completely clueless individuals and with management that can’t figure...

Well, good luck. This car has so many potential points of rattling that after a while you might just give up. For me it was a futile battle, as soon as I would fix one, two more cropped up. I ended up ripping apart almost the whole interior and still couldn’t fix a few rattles so I gave up. A...

A colleague from work was trying to convince me he can and will get his MCU1 upgraded to MCU2 and he said it so nonchalantly like it’s a given. I tried to tell him that errrm there has been no recorded instance of such a thing occurring, but he wouldn’t listen. Shrug, such is the power of Elon’s...

I wish this were the biggest problem with Tesla.

I don’t need a car right now. If I do end up needing one in the future, it’s certainly not going to be a Tesla.

I got rid of my MCU1 car yesterday and I am super relieved because having to go through this nonsense would send me into a mental institution.

I still don’t see how you are competitive at all. Tesla sells the cars with warranty for basically the same (and often lower) price compared with dealer cars that don’t come with warranty, so one has to spend extra $4k to get your warranty on top of that. It just doesn’t make sense.

why is that such a big problem? It’s not particularly expensive, especially given the location and convenience.

Rated is not realistic. If temperature goes below 10 degrees Celsius, there is almost no chance to hit rated range. Or if there is any kind of a hill. Or if you drive like every other car on the highway and use AC etc.

500 mile rated range doesn’t mean 500 mile real range. If you hit 370 miles with 500 rated range, that’s excellent. So still less than most/all gas cars.

how many miles and how old is the Q5? Your 14 year old car certainly isn’t a good comparison with a 4 year old Model S that I have.

Because when driving a car in a regular position your eyes, arms and feet are pointed forwards and you can see, hear, process, anticipate and react better/faster to whatever situation is happening in front of you, as compared to backing in when everything is located behind you and your...

Stop, you’re destroying this forum with rationality. How dare you! My local SC sucks so bad.

You are assuming Tesla is a company lead by rational people. It isn’t.

my pano has been a total rattling mess. I took the car in at least 5 times to get it fixed and every time they “realigned the sunroof” only for the issue to not be fixed. No leaks, but rattles are driving me wild. I would avoid that pos.

Cyclons are by far my favorite Tesla wheels. Slipstreams are so meh, totally basic. My 85D has cyclons and I love it. The fact that they were discontinued just makes me like them more.

Totally randomly passing by this thread and I am sure to get a lot of flack for this, but since I saw your post, I had to ask why not A5? Other than crazy/smooth acceleration, what exactly does an M3 have over an Audi A5? Comfort? luxury? Build quality? None of these imo. Heck, the damn thing...

MCU1, 2019.32.12 if I am not mistaken. Didn't try the browser, I absolutely never use it.

My 2015 85D has coil suspension and I do prefer it over standard air suspension because it just feels way better to drive (someone in the thread said SAS is too squishy, and I agree). I do miss the ability to occasionally lift the car up (I've had a few bad run ins with bumps where I scratched...

I was just playing with my MCU a bit and noticed that the map is considerably faster than before. Also, the overall UI is a lot more fluid somehow. I did get an update in the last few days, I wonder if I am dreaming or if Tesla finally did something right and improved performance? I am very...

The only really useful thing from newer Model S cars is the sentry mode. I really wish I had it. Otherwise, almost everything else that MCU2 supports is a total (in my opinion pretty dumb) gimmick. Who gives a damn about beach buggy or netflix in a car? Wanna watch stuff? Bring a tablet with you!

Do you see how Tesla screws with you? Hardware too old to do video? I call bullshit on that. That’s a bunch of crap from Tesla side. Computers were able to play video just fine 20 years ago with single core CPUs that barely reached 1Ghz clock and graphics cards a la Geforce 2 from NVidia...

A scratch on a $40k Model 3 can be considered a minor flaw. On a $100k Model S absolutely not. Or any other car that costs as much for that matter. If a brand new S550 or Taycan have a scratch, reject them. So based on that, most Tesla cars shouldn’t be for sale, right? Almost every single...

I haven’t been active on this forum for a few months and now I am reading some new posts and a lot of them literally have my brain going “wtf”. Including yours. Entitled???? Really? Someone who cashed out $100k on a car and is complaining about poor panel alignment, paint issues, missed details...

that is complete nonsense. So are you saying that if someone had Takata airbags in their car, but then sold the car, there is no need to replace the airbags anymore? What kind of thinking is that?

That’s absolutely true, even though you twisted it and overgeneralized it so I’ll try to respond. When Tesla promised software updates, my expectations were that these updates would be high quality, well tested and beneficial to the ownership experience. In that case, what you said absolutely...

How is that a good thing? Personally, I don’t want any more shitty software updates. Ever. Tesla, leave me and my pathetic, slow, MCU1 car alone. Ideally, please revert it to V8 and leave it at that. I don’t care about arcades, chess, beach buggy, web browsing, netflix or any of the other...

That’s the whole point. It’s way too much hit or miss to be considered good. But explain that to a lot of people here. Anyway, I am a bit sick of trying to walk the nuanced path of supporting Tesla (remember, I own one, how the hell can I be a hater) while pointing out legitimate problems that...