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you are right i just checked, and its there

So the box should be in the car? or they no longer include it and its a separate purchase?

My 2022 model x had a box for tow hitch. Aside from lacking charging adaptor and key fobs, is Tesla no longer giving tow hitch?

Is there a front camera bumper? I'm picking up mine this week. I read that the new model 3 has 5G connectivity and better range for wifi.... Can you give us some details? Thanks

True. But the historic storm hasn't reached where you and I live yet (San Diego).

The difference is, humans, can turn their necks and body to visualize oncoming traffic for left turns. Do the cameras in our cars do that? Why do you think they are putting more cameras and in particular on each side of the bumper?

So you think they will develop the software for HW3 forever? once it's half-assed "feature complete as Elon calls it" they will stop... just like they screwed the HW2.5 people, we will get the same treatment. But we will get more games in our cars to make it up.

I don't disagree with his statement, but unfortunately, not for HW3, as he claimed literally every few months. Pretty sure 11.3 will not come out for a few months for wide release. This is today in SoCal, just a mild drizzle (it says FSD unavailable, poor weather detected). Thank you, Elon for...

HW 4 will be safer and HW5 will be safer than 4.. that's not the point. The point is that he said our cars with HW3 will be capable of making us passive income through the Tesla Ride sharing network .

and they are already working on HW4 to deliver the cars that are sitting in the lot per Teslascope tweet

That's the frustrating part. They should upgrade the hardware/software until FSD is achieved. Nobody expects free hardware and software but we paid in advance for these features to get it in the future, as they said the prices would go up over time. Nobody is asking for a brand new car but the...

I'm hoping the side cameras with wider angles can be retrofitted. I think it would make a big difference in driving, parking...

He does mention at the earlier part that these are forward-looking statements so I don't know if that would hold up in court. Maybe a lawyer here can comment

The definition of L2 or L3 ... is meaningless with Tesla. Elon Musk verbatim said that all cars currently produced (in 2019 autonomy day) are capable of robotaxi and they will have 1 millions robotaxi by next year. Verbatim Elon said, "for sure, by the end of next year," and they showcased...

Agree. It’s. Not like HW4 will be the solution. But at least they have know for a while the camera positions need to change. That’s just wrong to keep selling while knowing about this

And they are still selling the ones they produced with HW3. We now know the the camera positions were wrong and there is a blind spot. Plus removing radar

The car runs through red light, coming off a highway where I had to stop it. I have sent multiple bug reports about this and I have the latest fsd. Stop signs are nothing compared to this. Don’t blame regulatory approval as Waymo and Zoox have permit to run driverless cars. I listednes to...

Elon’s definition of L2-5 means doesn’t matter. He said the car will drive around like Uber and make you money when you are not using it. Clearly, it means you are not behind the wheel. It’s as clear as it gets. It doesn’t matter how the world defines L2,3,4,5.. And it doesn’t it matter if it’s...

Zoox got permit in cali with no steering so not true

True. Prob another software update recall. That being said no other car still has highway autopilot like Tesla.

As I said before let’s say Tesla has the most advanced AI like Einstein’ brain, but if your eyes can’t see properly, you can’t drive. There are 200 megapixel cameras on phones now, why did it take Tesla 5 years to put change the camera placement and put a 5 megapixel camera in 2023. Mind...

is it aspirational statement when they showcase it on official autonomy day and keep repeating it on investor day? or would it count as a fraudulent statement? Tesla surely didn't decide that they need to put more cameras in different places yesterday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/16/tesla-recalls-362758-vehicles-says-full-self-driving-beta-software-may-cause-crashes.html

Tune in on CNBC now Tesla is recalling all the FSD betas

Hope so

Many bought the vehicle and purchased FSD as Musk claimed it will be an appreciating asset and make you money over time when you are not using the car. Just returning FSD money does not make up for it..

Def do not buy the new Model Y. They removed all the ultrasonic sensors around the vehicle that would be useful for parking. Wait for the new model with the new camera placements (putting one in front of the bumper to make up for it). and don't sell the 2019. As one pointed out, they removed...

thats not accurate, he claimed that all cars produced in 2019 will be capable of ride-sharing and make money while you sit at home. That's from autonomy day of 2019 and he has not backed down from claims that Tesla cars are an appreciating asset. So this is not about L2 or L3 or L4... He said...

No one wants to destroy a great company. But Elon Musk has made outrageous claims over and over and even recently from hardware that has not changed since 2018. He needs to be liable for his claims, such as millions of robotaxis in 2019 with the Tesla ridesharing network. That was BS. It's not...

Wishful thinking. Tesla lawyers will swallow all of us combined.

I use FSD beta too, Don't lie. I don't if this gut has an ulterior motive against Musk but half of what he shows in the video is completely true. Slams on the break passes red light.. years of lies from Musk. Enough is enough

March first will be a disappointment for millions of customers who believed in Elon's claims

It's one thing to say it once, but to claim these on Twitter, investor days, and interviews repeatedly... is beyond ridiculous. Many will not question this as they are benefiting from Tesla stock price including many Tesla owners. The perfect example of Elizabeth Holmes case and Trevor Milton.

Same, except I bought MX Plaid with FSD. Lawsuits should begin rolling. The audacity to keep repeating every few months Teslas are appreciating asset and make money for you. https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-12-08/tesla-lawsuit-full-self-driving-technology-failure-not-fraud

Apple or Steve Jobs never sold a product that was not even there. That's the difference.

Musk strategy keep promising until either customers buy new cars, your their car will be out of warranty and too costly to maintain forcing them to buy a new one. Meanwhile steal their money for FSD

Exactly especially putting back additional cameras and radar, they need to start writing codes for that. They have spent 5 years now on HW3, doubt they will spend another couple of years on it. 10.69 was supposed to be magical. Now we think 11.3 is gonna be some kind of magic because they are...

even if they put the new FSD 2 computer that is not that impressive after all, they are putting additional higher resolution cameras at different locations and radar back that requires more processing power. Those are the real deal, otherwise, the new computer is pointless as the processing...

They can say that to Cali DMV but not investors on a day to day matter.. Cali DMV is not the only DMV in the country. and is certainly not the court

I was thinking how the the front camera can see through the car's frunk.. but didn't they ship cars without the bumper camera and no USS ready in model 3s? how are they gonna solve that?

lol thats what I was thinking. Didnt they say Vision only is the only way, and radar can give contradictory information that would cloud vision and cause problems...

yes we got screwed big time, and imagine the people who are paying 15K now to get delivery. Morally wrong

I guess we now know why Musk wants to build the most brutal litigation department..

Tesla's technology is prob far too advance compared to other autos. But they will use the Mobileye subsidiary of Intel who is also very advanced. But you still need proper eyes even if you have Einstein's brain. More information on...

Just paying back FSD is not enough. Per Musk in 2019, its an appreciating asset, it will become part of the Tesla ridesharing network and make you passive income, this was what they showcased in 2019 here is the whole video still on Youtube channel from Tesla this video is from THREE years...

https://www.notateslaapp.com/software-updates/upcoming-features/id/1205/tesla-fsd-hardware-4-0-revealed-more-cameras-new-placements Here is the example of why the wide the angle in the front is needed

So if it has to be written, why did Trevor Milton of Nikola who staged the who thing for investors arrested for fraud? I don't think it is as simple as that when you continuously say that FSD will happen by the end of next year repeatedly on investor channels, investor days, and autonomy day...

Why? because all his other companies succeeded when everyone said It wouldn't. Some of us were stupid and too naive to get it.

Imagine the narive people that are paying for HW3 for 15K today no knowing about all the details and that there is no retrofit possible. This is just morally wrong

Exactly why I feel pisssed and stupid for these reasons. But I would still buy a Tesla for highway autopilot just no longer FSD. Elon is a genius and he knew exactly back in 2019 Robotaxi was not gonna happen. you all think V11 all of a sudden gonna change the game? just like 10.69 was gonna...